John Jr Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Too bad The Terminator will not help that state get Class 3 Thompsons. He is against guns. He seems to me like a republicrat. Jr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter63a Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 John, Jr., during an interview with Peter Jennings the other day the Terminator said, "I believe in the Second Ammendment and the Brady Law. I think that existing laws should be enforced." I guess only time will tell. Hopefully he won't role over and play dead for the liberals in the California Legislature. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/cool.gif Regards, Walter P.S. Don't forget that the Terminator is not well-liked by most Hollywood types and that Diane Feinstein and Bill Clinton both campaigned against him, and for Gray Davis. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/unsure.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Arnie is hardly against firearms. The majority of California citizens, unfortunately, like the fact that it isn't a class III state, and that it has the "assault weapons" ban. Even when Reagan was governor, California was not a Class III state. It is a no win situation for any California Republican politician to cater to single issue voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Jr Posted October 8, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 They do forget that these single issue voter have guns. Arnie is against firearms JBH/Tobor/Authur. Look at his statements. Jr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp40 Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 The gun owners in California are in a no-win situation with Davis,Swartzenegger etc. it's either a bad Dem-o-rat or a bad "Republican" that doesn't care about the small gun owner voting block, as all of the gun owners in the state don't seem to have a common goal. Sadly, California will always be a socialist utopia (or at least the start of one) as are all of the coastal states. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK. Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 CA has always been a class 3 state; the law says you can have one but a permit is required. Of course, they don’t issue the permits, period. It makes it easy for them to say “we have no ‘law’ restricting your class 3 rights”. I would rather have seen the re-call fail and have Davis face a good conservative candidate two years from now as a weakened and disgraced governor. Perhaps McClintock might have had a chance then. Arnold is a joke, but that’s Hollywood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa Deuce Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Arnie is an actor; but, then again, so was Ronald Reagan! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/cool.gif REMEMBER: Gun Control is NOT about Guns; it is about CONTROL!!! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickV Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Just remember what happened the last time someone elected an unknown Austrian.... ....and THIS one is married to a Kennedy, no less! and we already have a movement in Congress to remove the "Natural Born" citizenship requirement to become President.... The things that make you go "Hummmmm......" Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 RickV, In your reference to Hitler, he was never elected by the German people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reenactor Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 That's right. He was just idolized by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Arnold the "Gova'nater" is a unknown Austrian? WOW! RickyV, where have you been for the last 30 years? And Hitler couldn't reproduce,thanks God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter63a Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 On September 14, 1930, the Nazis gained 107 Reichstag seats, becoming the second largest party in Germany. On January 30, 1933, President Paul Von Hindenburg appointed Adolph Hitler Chancellor of Germany. The Nazi Party received 44% of the seats in the German Parliament (Reichstag) in a free and open election in March, 1933. Later, other smaller rightwing and nationalist parties joined them, giving the Nazis 52% of the seats in the Reichstag. Hitler, being the leader of the Nazis, had a clear mandate from the German People. There was political infighting with the the other major parties opposing the Nazis, preventing an effective coalition government from being formed. Eventually, because of economic instability and a lack of will, Reichspresident Paul Von Hindenburg (elder statesman, Prussian leader of the military and I believe leader of another major party) yielded to Hitler's quest for power. On March 25, 1933, the Reichstag voted Hitler dictatorial powers. Then, in 1934, Hindenburg died, and Hitler assumed control of the military, effectively becoming dictator of Nazi Germany. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/unsure.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif Regards, Walter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Walter, There was nothing free or open about the election of 1933. The Schutzhaftbefehle initiated organized terror against any political opposition which led to the Reichstag fire. This led Hitler to table the Enabling Act which led to total dictatorship. You forgot to add that after Hitler combined the position of Reichsprasident and Chancellor in 34 to that of Fuhrer, he then outlawed any further provison for any other political party or elections. The Germans of the 30's and 40's were Hitler's willing executioners, but Hitler still was never elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter63a Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 Arthur, of course there was political violence, even political murder, on both sides (before and during the election of 1933). As a student of history, I do remember reading that both the Communists and the Nazis were quite regularly attacking one another and murdering one another in the 1920's and 1930's, leading up to the appointment and election of 1933 and beyond. I did not mention that Hitler outlawed other political parties in 1934, when he combined the offices of Reichspresident and Chancellor, because, traditionally, absolute ditators have absolute power. It was merely a detail to Hitler. Regards, Walter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 Grab an umbrella, their is alot of BS flying around here. Now come on, it is an insulting and stupid thing to compare Hitler and Arnold. So don't go there. yeah, Arnold was an actor, big woop. Actors can know just as well as others how to lead a state. Don't forget that Arnold worked for his position, it wasn't just handed to him. And what kind of ethnic racism is that to bring Austrian anything into the conversation. pathetic. I think it is a testament to the greatness of a country that a immigrant can rise to movie star and then excel to state Governor. is that something to insult? That's the freedom of class movement that we prize in America. Reagan was an actor too, and he got the same BS by people thinking that he couldn't possibly know how to lead a country. He did a pretty dang good job of it too. Despite a ruling Democratic congress. How about giving Arnold the benefit of the doubt and actually giving him a chance before you become callous in your own assumpions of his ineptness. I am sure McClintock would have been great... however we will never get anyone that conservative to win in such a liberal state, not without MAJOR social change in opinion. You just have to vote for the lesser of two evils and hope for the best. You will never have a REAL conservative without a miracle. Not trying to bring hard feelings, just trying to bring balance to what sounds like arnold bashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 There is that board called other topics or something- for while I've found this interesting, it would seem a shirt-tail Thompson relation I'd rather not have arrive unannounced at the door. Am not bashing anyone, but the bane of gunboads is often religion and politics. Oh yes, I've done my share of OT posting as well, but this board is one of the most respectful I've come across and so voice this as a concern, not a lecture from a high horse, especially since mine bucks a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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