mp40 Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 2007 is just a guess, but it does underscore a point, that we are fighting a battle that we are loosing....because the vast majority of the American public are brain-washed into the perseption that all gun owners are crazy back-woods hicks who marry their sister! no kidding! the gun prohibibitonists have resorted to this level of kindergarten behavior to "black-list" us. And you can guess what they think of machineguns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter63a Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 MP40. I hear ya! They like to think that we are all back woods monsters with two heads, or inbred jerks with less than a 70 I.Q. These liberals are true snobs. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/cool.gif I just want to belch, from hearing, reading and seeing all the self-righteous, pompous, nauseating filth these self-important, self-appointed pinheads spew out in the sanctioned liberal media (read ABC, CBS, NBC, The Washington Post, The New York Times and The Los Angeles Times, to name a few?) everyday!!! There, now I feel cleansed!! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif Regards, Walter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisley45 Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 I don't think Bubba is the problem, I think it is too many hoty toyty snobs safe from their poorer bretheren behind their private secuity gates. The people who have no real conection to the world at large, ya they can vacation in europe and have a house in Tuscany but if you took them to the middle of the mid west and dropped them off they would die of exposure before they figured they ought to walk to town. Some of these people only view of machinguns is the botched Calafornia Bank Robery where two crooks in kevlar and carrying illegal select fire rifles comming up from Mexico outgunned the police. ( A Thompson in the back of an officers car might have ended the problem sooner) Wasn't the Officer who comitted the fellony using his departments MG? BB (No offense to anyone born well off intended) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp40 Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 By the way, my comment about moving to another state should concern everone, we have to pull up or "roots" to move to another state that allows our hobby?! Now, this is just a matter of personal taste at the moment,but say in a few more years, that the state that we moved to Idaho,Montanna,Oregon etc. To enjoy our (very) politically-incorrect way of having safe fun,decides to ban the possession of these firearms? Move to another state? until all of the states have the same laws? legislated out of existance, by well meaning individuals? or ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter63a Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Bisley45, I totally agree with you, many of the chattering class in N.Y.C. and Washington, university professors, etc., living in their insular little worlds (where-well heavens to betsy, the maid forgot to press my favorite suit-is the extent of stress in their lives) haven't got a clue about the real world! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif Regards, Walter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter63a Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 I couldn't agree more MP40, it is a concern and it's disgusting, all at the same time! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp40 Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Walter, yes, i see what you mean, these media-pupets sing the same tired leftist song and fail to see just what they are doing to the fabric of American life....spewing the same lies that guns kill 30,000 (or 1,0000000 people?) a day? or some other trumped up figure to distort reallity? children killed by gunfire? make up "facts"! "Don't use use the truth it only harms us" Brady wouldn't do that would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter63a Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 MP40, yes, a prime example is the pack of lies that some insignificant 'major media outlet' yanked today, concerning Ronald Reagan. The only reason they pulled it was because their lies were exposed and proved extremely unpopular on talk-radio and the internet. I also understand that some former porn queen who likes to think of herself as a very talented singer/ actress, who was a backer of this movie, was outraged because her propaganda was pulled. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif Regards, Walter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 MP40, How would you have gotten into the machine gun hobby if your state, Washington, has been a non Class III state for decades. Unless you were born there, you did not know that it was a restrictive state before you moved there? Even if there were no federal law regarding taxing and registration of Class III weapons, the individual state can make it's own laws regarding this type of firearm ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp40 Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Arthur, yes, i was born here..I found my desire to own these firearms after learning that we non-government types could own these (in the states that allow it) firearms.Yes, it is up to the individual state, Washington state has prohibited the posession of the type since 1921 i believe. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp40 Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 The fact that various states use their "states rights" in this manner should disturb everone who believes in freedom....Why? inconsistencies in their laws from state to state-some in complete disregard to federal law! i.e. The district of columbia and NewYork....Yes, you might say they have every right to say or do what they like but they must not have laws contrary to federal law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Sure they can. That is what the 10th Amendment addresses. If Roe V. Wade were overturned by the Supreme Court, it would not make abortion illegal in all states. It would merely make it a matter for each state to legislate. The Supreme Court has determined that the possession of firearms, as guaranteed in the Constitution, is under the purview of each state to determine local methods of regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter63a Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Yes Arthur, but neither the 10th. nor the 2nd. Amendments have prevented the Federal Government of the United States from passing many laws regarding the possession of firearms throughout the United States. Afterall, The 1934 NFA Act, the 1968 Gun Laws, the 1986 Automatic Weapons Ban, The 1994 Assault Weapons and large capacity gun (more than10 rds.) magazine ban do, in fact, regulate gun possession throughout the United States. The liberals who authored these draconian laws refer to them as Crime Bills and Crime Laws, but most people with open minds recognize them for what they are--- weapons and related equipment bans, or controls. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/unsure.gif The Supreme Court opened a Pandora's Box of gun control and regulation (with their reinterpretations of the U.S. Constitution in the late 19th. and early 20th. centuries), never intended by the Founding Fathers, as evidenced by the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and numerous other writings, by such great men as, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, and, George Mason. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Walter, You're preaching to the choir here.....If you noticed, Bush 43 has not even hinted at proposing amendments to these four gun laws, and that's with a Republican Congress behind him. So the prudent thing to do is to try to live the best we can with what we got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter63a Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Yes, Arthur, agreed, we 'should try to live the best we can', as the situation now allows. However, these curbs on American freedom worry and vex me. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif I would like to see all of these federal laws repealed. I know that this is unlikely, unless we are in imminent danger of being invaded by an enemy. (Still, an armed society is a polite society, because one never knows just who might be armed). The question is: do we want to wait for that to happen? Between WWI and WWII Great Britain decided to virtually ban guns (for civilians). Then, when WWII broke out, the British were dependent on other nations to rearm. Do we, in the U.S., want to be disarmed by 'our' Federal Government, especially at this increasingly dangerous time for America! We seem, now, to be in an increasingly volatile and violent conflict with much of the Arab and Muslim World. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/unsure.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIONHART Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 Very WELL said Walter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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