Karatebear Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Recently, as of April 2015 Mossberg no longer sells this conversion to civilians, was hoping a fellow board member with a ffl would be willing to put an order in and I'd be happy to pay an extra $60 for this "convenience" Will be doing the NON-NFA 14" build as seen http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?page_id=88 Mossberg Customer Support, 1-800-363-3555, order one each of the following:13488 Tube Nut 500A/835 $8.5311239P M590/835 Mag Cap Parkerized $14.0012410P Magtube M514 Parkerized $14.0012392P Magazine Spring Retainer 590/835 Parkerized $3.5012194 Spring, Magazine 835 $3.5012359 Forearm, M514 $20.0016033P Bbl Asm 514Bead Hvy/w Parkerized $100.0012362P Action Slide Asm 500/514 Parkerized $22.00Prices listed above were current as of March 1, 2015. With shipping, the total was $196.56.Recently, I heard that Mossberg now has a part number for the whole front end assembly:92514.Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunhistorian Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 WHOA! My understanding -- but check this with an attorney or with the Lone Ranger -- is that unless you are starting with a receiver that is pristine, factory new, never assembled into a shotgun, you cannot purchase a shotgun and swap out parts and create an AOW. It becomes a short-barrel shotgun. Unless something has changed, rifles and shotguns are sort of like machine guns: once a rifle, always a rifle; once a shotgun, always a shotgun; once a machine gun, always a machine guns. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd rather have info from an attorney experienced in this area of law than relying on stuff on the 'Net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkel Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 WHOA! My understanding -- but check this with an attorney or with the Lone Ranger -- is that unless you are starting with a receiver that is pristine, factory new, never assembled into a shotgun, you cannot purchase a shotgun and swap out parts and create an AOW. It becomes a short-barrel shotgun. Unless something has changed, rifles and shotguns are sort of like machine guns: once a rifle, always a rifle; once a shotgun, always a shotgun; once a machine gun, always a machine guns. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd rather have info from an attorney experienced in this area of law than relying on stuff on the 'Net.Unless something has changed recently.As long as the shotgun never had a stock installed when new from factory. For example: the Mossberg Cruiser pistol grip shotguns. Many Cruisers were converted to AOW. I have a Mossberg cruiser that I had converted to AOW by a Class II mfg. He was able to tell by the serial number that it was AOW worthy.I am not a lawyer or an expert. And I know the ATF like to change the rules change over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunhistorian Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Thanks. I should have gone further in following the links. Basically ATF Tech Branch is taking the position that a pistol gripped shotgun is not a "shotgun" under the NFA because under THAT Act, a shotgun is defined as one being capable of being fired from the shoulder. Is ATF getting gun-owner friendly? I remember (vaguely) quite a number of years ago a major legal battle involving the manufacture of (see if I got this right) Harvey-modified pistols. For those who are MUCH younger, I recall that Harvey was boring out the rifling in S&W large frame pistols and increasing or swapping out the cylinders so these pistols would fire a shotgun shell (.410 maybe?). Can't recall if the broo-ha-ha was over their being classed as an AOW or as a short barrel shotgun. Guess Harvey won, but I don't think you see too many Harvey pistols on the market. Now we have the Judge (Taurus). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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