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$200 I am guessing. It was lumped in with a bunch of other stuff.

I had approved transfer paperwork "gone missing" on a 1918 Winchester BAR and a Colt's 21/28 Navy from the same seller. I submitted a request for certified copy's from ATF and within 1 month ( 12 years ago) I received the completed 'copies'of the Form 4's w/o a stamp. Transfer was completed quickly afterwards. Approximately one year later I received an envelope from the Seller who had found the approved form 4's w/ stamp; they apparently had fallen behind his desk. Grateful that he forwarded them to me rather than pitching them. Stay on top of the ATF, they shouldn't need the 45 days, but maybe I was just lucky. Good luck !

I'm not saying it wouldn't be worth looking into. It would be worth it even if the atf decided the conversion had to be married to the pkm. All I'm saying is I would like to know what was done first. I haven't thought about it a lot but can only think of a couple ways for it to work. Both would probably be illegal. Cut a full auto bolt, carrier, add an offset sear catch that clears the denial. Probably illegal since it could drop in any semi and just run away. Remove denials which would most likely be illegal. Trim denials and refinish so it appears to still be in semi configuration. Like I said in a previous post, would anyone fit this into a semi uzi and slot a full auto bolt to work with it? I would assume that it would probably be ok in any legal pre 82 open bolt semi. I'm really curious about how it was converted to work with a semi. Who knows maybe I'm just missing something.

Rpbcps Any idea where the serial numbers for savage 'cash and carry' end and 'lend an lease' begin?How to tell difference between the 2?

My PM TRW M-14 has the caliber listed as 30-06, matters none to me, not worth the effort. I just go with the flow.

Cool find,what dod you pay of you don't mind my asking?

Rekraps: To compound your frustration, I've been involved in transfers of C&R guns where guys like you came before me in the chain of ownership . . . . and had worked to "correct" stuff like the manufacturer or model information. Then, on the most reecnt transfer (i.e. to me) the form gets rejected because the corrections somehow appear to have been lost by BATFE, so that the NFRTR contines to reflect the original (incorrect) data from the original registration decades ago. I've gotten to the point of taking a "don't mess with it" apporach to this data, unless there is something just so terribly wrong that it may cause a legitmate question about the identity of the gun. Other than that . . . just leave well enough alone and use the information that BATFE has in the NFRTR.

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Could be mine! Love it.

Great point. I spent literally hundreds of hours over the past five years getting stuff like this corrected.... and it makes no difference at all.

I've had an NFA Branch Examiner tell me that, other than needing to remain consistent from transfer to transfer, the data in the "Manuracturer" box is "not important". She also added that what they do "really focus on" is the SN, caliber, model, overall length, and barrel length boxes . . . those are the "big deal" data points for them.

AFAIK, in the olden days, the predecessor to the CMP possibly shipped M2 marked carbines ($20!!!!) with the full auto parts out, as semiauto. Okrana

It would seem that looking at the Form 3 the triggers are on would clarify a lot. IF the F3 says ...conversion device for MAC-10/11/etc firearms... then that settles it. If, on the other hand it simply states conversion device for machine guns without specifying WHAT gun they are for, it seems worthwhile to pursue it. Especially given the unavailability of transperables PK/PKMs. Okrana

Boyt made a lot of different scabbards during WW2. I have one of their rifle scabbards. Now I just have to remember where I put it.

Thank you everyone for the information! I ended up examining it a little closer and found this marking.

This is coming up sooner than you think.

"The final sales of the Colt manufactured Thompsons occurred in 1939 and 1940, 3,000 shipped to France, 951 sold to the US government, and 500 sold to Sweden; these three sales accounted for 4,451 weapons, almost 1/3 of the Thompsons manufactured by Colt. These orders resulted in AOC, almost clearing their remaining inventory of the 15000 Thompsons manufactured in 1921 and 1922 by Colt. The Swedish order left AOC with only 100 of the Colt manufactured Thompsons." And "In April 1940, the first Savage manufactured Thompsons were rolling off the assembly line. The first 3,000 Savage Model of 1928s were to meet the second French order for Thompsons placed in March 1940, which was never delivered due to the Armistice of 22 June 1940. The British took over all of the French military contracts in America, following the 22nd June, to avoid ‘war material’ continuing to be delivered to France and falling into German hands. It is recorded that 1,150 of the French Contract Savage Model of 1928s were amongst the ‘war materials’ delivered to Britain. The remainder of the contract, 1,850 Model of 1928s, was cancelled, once the British had negotiated a penalty from AOC for not meeting the schedule for the delivery of the French contract. As a penalty, AOC provided, free of charge, 149 new Savage Model 1928’s and 40 refurbished Colt Thompsons. Despite the British urgent requirement for weapons, they were still very conscious of costs, which was the reason for the British cancellation of the outstanding French Thompson contract. The French contract was for $175.00 per gun, whereas the British Purchasing Committee, purchased the early 1928 Thompsons for $168.75 each, which was further reduced to $130.00 per gun, by the end of the British contracts. The first British order with AOC, was for 750 Thompson Submachine guns, which was rapidly followed by several more orders. Prior to the enactment of the U.S. Lend-Lease program, (March 1941), the British had purchased 108,000 Savage Model of 1928s."

Sadly i think Ron Mills passed away have not been in contact in over 2 years. i hope i am wrong. IF SOMEBODY KNOWS IF HE IS HIDING OUT LET ME KNOW. I HAVE TRIED OVER TEN TIMES In past year.IN ILLINOIS AND ARIZONA.

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a real nice unmessed with original. and with some great history.And mags and sling.

Yeah they now want $340 shipped not bad. If a guy needs to fill a hardcase spot. I SOLD ONE AT SAR SHOW 4 YEARS AGO FOR $500.00. EVEN THESE will get more. i think when i bought the few from Gordon decade or longer it was like $200 bucks. but i sold the 4 originals i had from $1500 to $2000 and that was well over 30 years ago.. I miss Gordon a real great guy, and a friend. update i don't think he had a trunk of them.. looks like sold out....unless i am not seeing a new ad.

Yes please let me know. Thank you

One is currently listed for sale on gunbroker.com. While not my specialty, I believe there were several different manufacturers during World War II. Colt Thompson 1944 Milwaukee Saddlery Co. Scabbard *GREAT CONDITION!* - Class 3 Parts & Accessories at GunBroker.com : 1087754616

Those with my Amateur's Guide book can turn to pages 151 - 154 to learn more about the Herigstad Reproduction Spare Part Kits including the production figures. I later continued the story in, A Thompson Compendium, on page 162 with the information on how Gordon finally received the message about unmarked reproduction accessories from the Thompson community and decided to mark the kits. Ryo, I too paid more for my Gordon reproduction Spare Part Kit several years ago. But I am OK with that. All good stuff!!!

I have 2 I'd sell for $340 delivered. I bought them from that Sturm add in 2018. Email me directly at hmd7(at)msn.com. Put M6 in title line as it will probably go to spam.