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Thanks SA. Next I take it apart and see if I can find any parts that might be bent or broken. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/tongue.gif Dep

This caught my eye in the ad: "Transferable Plainfield M2 Carbine. Not a rebuilt M1. This gun was built during the Korean War. It has the metal heat shield above the barrel, not wood. It looks and runs great. Comes with a couple of extra mags. $5,500." I did a little research and found this on another message board: "The Plainfield Carbine appeared first in the 1966 issue of Gun Digest, in the 1979 issue it’s’ description was changed to: Iver Johnson’s Plainfield Carbine and by the 1983 issue it was just Iver Johnson. In the Nov.1984 issue of Firepower there is an article on an Iver Johnson Carbine with no mention of Plainfield. First came the Milville Ordnance Co. that company became the Plainfield Ordnance Co. that became the Plainfield Machine Co. they were bought by Iver Johnson Arms who also owned Universal. This is just one line and it goes on." Sounds like this guy doesn't really know what he has. Dep

After reading the suggestion from TommyGunner, I went to work on my 1927A1. The problem was it WAS cocked and wouldn't fire. This meant I couldn't dissassemble it either. TommyGunner (Damon) suggested I pull the cocking knob back and play with the trigger. I hooked the knob on my wooden workbench and pushed down. I am fairly strong, but the recoil spring on the 27A1 must have been made for Godzilla http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif Anyway, with the knob in the rearmost position, I squeezed the trigger repeatedly. Nothing seemd to be happening. So I eased the knob forward and tried it again. Still nothing. So I let the cocking knob ease forward and put the barrel of the rifle on a small piece of carpet. Then I tried pushing with both thumbs on the trigger to see if I could move it forward. I heard and felt a distinct "CLICK" when I did this. I curled my index finger around the trigger and cautiously applied tension to the trigger. There was DEFINITELY resistance felt. More tension and "CLACK". The hammer fell to the fired position. LOL...I let out an "OH YEAH" yell that woke up all my neighbors http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif I pushed in the takedown button on the rear of the receiver, and what was previously under heavy spring tension was now completely free. I can slide the upper and lower apart with ease. My thanks go out to TommyGunner (Damon) for his expertise and helpful suggestions. Sure saved me from shipping that beast back to Kahr and getting reamed out for a service charge that wasn't even my fault. I suggest the mods add this fix to the FAQ. It will save a lot of future headaches for anyone who had the same problem I had. Damon...I owe you big time http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/hail.gif Dep

Thanks a ton Damon! Will try that cocking knob back and play with the trigger thing. Really appreciate your help!!! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif Dep

Thanks Damon and Consult. I'll try that trick of pulling back the cocking knob and fiddling with the trigger. Also will call their regular number and see if I can contact someone. I appreciate the advice!!!! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/smile.gif Dep

Thanks for the welcome Damon. It's new, ordered from a dealer that ordered it from a wholesaler. Is there any way of me fixing it if someone cocked it with the safety on? Or was it permanently damaged? I can't even take it apart. When I try and take it apart it only seperates about an inch and is still under spring tension. It just slams back together again. Is there a serial number sequence where they made improvements on the gun? Dep

QUOTE (reconbob @ May 24 2006, 10:22 PM) Don't laugh but there may be a part loose inside there from a faulty attempt to disassemble the gun, and its blocking the movement of the bolt, or the firing pin may have broken having the same effect... Bob You may be right. But I never disassembled the gun prior to first attempt yesterday. And I didn't try cocking it until yesterday either. The op rod goes all the way back as far as it can go but it just doesn't cock. I think they should rename this hunk of garbage 1927A1 boat anchor. That's all it's good for. I tried calling Kahr, but the service rep must be flooded with calls. All I ever get is an answering machine. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif Dep

ronterry: Believe it or not, I ENVY you!!!!! I can't get my 1927A1 KAHR to cock or even take it apart to see what's wrong (and it's brand new). At least you can get yours to go BANG once in a while http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif Hmmmm....the magazine writeups I read they said Kahr IMPROVED the quality of the semi-autos. I would hate to see what they were like BEFORE Kahr bought them out. Dep

Yep. Safety is in fire position. The lower travels back one inch and STOPS. Like it is hitting something solid. It's also under considerable spring tension. Dep

I have a brand new 1927A1 Kahr/Thompson. Today I took it out to clean it and noticed that when I try to cock it it DOESN'T cock. I thought maybe I wasn't pulling the cocking lever back far enough so I got out a rag and pulled it all the way back till it wouldn't go any further and then let it slide forward. Still wouldn't cock. I tried to take it apart to see what's going on inside, but when I push in the takedown button and try and slide the lower receiver from the upper, it only slides back an inch or so under HEAVY spring tension to the point where it won't seperate any further. Then the lower slams forward. I called Kahr and left a message with them but no call back yet. I thought Kahr had imprioved the quality control of Auto Ordnance when they took it over. This is pretty disappointing after spending over a grand to buy this thing and I can't even shoot it. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif Dep