steely

thanks again every one, took a closer look at the extractor and noticed some damage that I had previously missed, have an new one on the way steely

thanks for all the tips guys, I will take a closer look at the extractor, ejector, and bolt face your right, that is the most likely problem area and may be easy to replace, if I can't locate the problem, I'll look for a pro

First off, thanks for looking, Every time I pull the trigger on my '27 A1 Deluxe the empty shell comes partially out, flips around and is pinned by the bolt, half in, half out of the breech, with the bolt face shoved into the opening of the empty shell case http://s646.photobucket.com/albums/uu188/s...nt=DSC_4365.jpg http://s646.photobucket.com/albums/uu188/s...nt=DSC_4367.jpg this gun has had some internal damage due to a shell exploding with the breech partially open, I had to replace a few parts including the main spring, the spring I took out was much shorter than the one I replaced it with, and the difference in length was made up with a small brass sleeve that was damaged when the shell exploded. My initial thinking is that the new spring is slamming the bolt closed too quickly and pinning the shell does that make sense? any thoughts?

Wow, Thanks for the offer Weasel, unfortunately, by the time I saw your post, I had already ordered a new one from Kahr. Thanks to all of you guys, you have been a tremendous help, I'll be sure to let you know how this spring works. by the way, just how far south is it to the nearest class III?' I'm in the Northeast corner of Washington, 60 acres of timber, my little slice of heaven thanks all Steely

all right guys, thanks again for all your help, I may have the issue narrowed down, First off, my gun is a West Hurley, that said, I think my center firing pin spring is too short, am I right in thinking that the spring should rest against the rib near the rear of the firing pin Pilot, and reach all the way forward to the hammer, providing pressure against it, pinning it up against the firing pin? it seams my spring is significantly shorter, and the brass sleeve was inserted to make up for the slack, and now it seams the spring has collapsed some, and the sleeve doesn't take up all that slack. When the upper receiver is fully assembled, and resting on my table upside down, I can reach in and slide the center spring a quarter inch back and forth on the pilot pin, between the brass sleeve and the hammer. does any of this make sense? can anyone tell me how long that spring should be? and the best place to find a replacement? Thanks guys, I think I am getting closer to having the old tommy back on the range! p.s. living in Washington State, I sure envy all you "true" Tommy gun owners! I have never had the wonderful feeling of full auto! steely

Hi all, I got instant, and great responses to my last question, so I figured I would try for two! I recently went to Numrich on line and ordered 4 rear sight screws for my Auto Ordnance 1927A-1 semi auto, when they showed up, they were just a hair too large to fit into my gun, is this just a parts mix up from their warehouse, or did I order the wrongs screws somehow? any thoughts? Thanks to all Steely

Thanks Norm for the link, that's a great thing to have. to "Motorcar", thanks for your reply, the hammer is installed, and if it supposed to maintain pressure on the firing pin, it isn't, I must have installed something wrong. since the hammer, spring, and pilot, all just slide in the end, I am assuming I have seated my firing pin wrong. any tips on how to do that? could I have it in there somehow wrong? by looking at the diagrams, I don't seem to be missing any parts, in fact, it seems that I have an extra part, there is a small, brass sleeve on the firing pin pilot, it rests against the ridge near the end of the pilot, and the pilot spring rests against it. that was how I found it on initial breakdown, but I cant find the brass sleeve in any diagrams I have seen. and last but not least, being new to Tommy guns, I have no idea if it is a W.H. or Kahr, it says auto ordinance, and I was under the impression that they were bought out by Kahr. According to the parts list from Norm's link, I seem to have the "Short tip design" for a firing pin, if that helps any. Thanks to you both for your help steely

Hi all, I'm another Newbie here, I was having some trouble with my bolt and searching for resources, and I found you! a whole website full of Tommy Gun experts! I hope some one can help me in my plight! New to my collection is a used Auto Ordinance 1927 A-1 deluxe, I had to replace the firing pin pilot, and the firing pin retracting pin, I thought I had done everything right, just as I found it, but now that the gun is re-assembled, as I tip it from floor to sky, I can hear the firing pin slide back and forth. On a dry fire test, the gun seemed to fire, but I could hear the firing pin rattle as it did. did I just assemble it wrong? am I missing a part? what keeps tension on the firing pin, when the gun is not cocked? can anyone help? or at least point me in the direction of a detailed break down of the bolt? Thanks everyone!