Metzenbaum

[PhilOhio]

This is intended to provide historical perspective for some of you younger folks, who missed an earlier wave of firearms prohibitionist hysteria stirred up during the '70s and '80s.

 

Ex-Senator (Ohio) Howard Metzenbaum, age 90, died Wednesday night at his home in the Ft. Lauderdale, FL, area. Some might consider Howie to have been a far left, hard core Marxist luminary in the Democratic party. But he considered himself just a humble man of the people, constantly fighting for the little guy. Being a self-made millionaire (don't ask how), it was easier. This also made his art collecting easier.

 

Howard Metzenbaum, sometimes known as "Headline Howard", was the creature of a left wing ethnic constituency in the Cleveland area. He worked for years as a labor lawyer and union lobbyist. He was known as a cantankerous loudmouth who didn't need a microphone to make his point in a large hall. And of course, he was a tireless self promoter.

 

Metzenbaum was an anti-capitalist crusader, constantly fighting big business of every type...oil companies, the insurance industry, banks, savings and loan companies...he fought every corporate "tax break" that came along. Karl Marx and Nick Lenin must be welcoming this guy to the Lake of Fire with open arms.

 

Metzenbaum started his political career in the Ohio House and Ohio Senate, finally being appointed to fill a U.S. Senate vacancy in 1974. There he stayed, until retiring at the end of 1994. He made his Senate mark bashing the American business community in every way he could dream up. Metzenbaum was a notorious abuser of the filibuster, using it to try to block all legislation with which he disagreed. Upon retirement, he teamed up with the Consumer Federation of America to continue his harassment of the business community...just trying to help out the common man, of course.

 

Most pictures of Howard are with his mouth open, and certainly not smiling.

 

While in the Senate, good ol' Howie did all he could to derail NAFTA, and failed.

 

Metzenbaum was quite a critic of the socialized health care plans of Bill and Hillary Clinton. Why? Because they did not go nearly far enough for this socialist crusader. He regarded not having been able to get the whole ball of wax, a nationwide socialist medicine program, as "a great disappointment" in his Senate career.

 

But all of this is secondary to Howard Metzenbaum's significance to American shooters, and anybody valuing the Second Amendment, which this man truly hated. He spent his whole public career as one of the most highly visible and ruthless fighters in the firearms prohibitionist movement. Charles Schumer was then a Johnny Come Lately. Metzenbaum was a contemporary of fellow antigunner Senator Thomas J. Dodd, later defrocked for proven corruption. Dodd's son Chris follows in daddy's anti-firearms footsteps.

 

But Metzenbaum was one of the biggest names in gun ban land. In an obituary in our left wing Toledo Blade, which shared his propagandist views, no mention whatsoever was made of his highly publicized battling against the Second Amendment for decades.

 

As a final footnote, Metzenbaum's son-in-law is one Joel Hyatt (actually Joel Hyatt Zylberberg), a lower key antigunner and long time would-be puller of levers of power in the Democratic Party. You may remember Hyatt for his pioneering "just trust me" franchised television lawyer advertisements decades ago. Apparently the TV lawyer gig didn't generate enough dough, so Joel moved on to bigger and better things. He keeps at it, at a high level, within the Democratic Party, and in 2007 he also got onto the Hewlett-Packard board of directors.

 

Keep an eye on these people. They are certainly keeping an eye on you and your freedom.

 

And if you remember, dump a drum in memory of Howard Metzenbaum and what he didn't succeed in stopping you from doing. It ain't because he didn't try.

 

 

[hawksnest]

:agree: Isn't Dennis (the menace) Kusinich living proof Metzumbaum once had sex with (fill in the blank) _____?

[PhilOhio]

Ain't that the truth.

 

Sorry about the duplicate posts, guys. An unfortunate feature of this software is that the person who starts a new thread can edit his own post, but cannot delete the thread. Sometimes the software burps and bogs down, making it appear that the new topic did not go through. Then you post it again and it works, with the server accepting it in the usual way. Next you find there are duplicate threads, and you cannot eliminate either one. So there we are.

 

But we're still in better shape than creaky old Howard who, right about now, is probably a whole lot less appealing even than when he was alive.

 

My friend told me this morning that he thought that, many years ago in his hateful young lawyer days, Metzenbaum even had the Communist Party U.S.A. as one of his clients. I'm not sure that is true, but certainly could be. The guy was dedicated to chewing the Constitution to pieces and slaying capitalist dragons, as best he could. He and old Gus Hall were probably bosom buddies.

[Lancer]

Sorry about the duplicate posts, guys. An unfortunate feature of this software is that the person who starts a new thread can edit his own post, but cannot delete the thread.

 

Phil

FYI if you go to the bottom of the page......click on "moderation options" then on "delete topic", you should be able to delete entire topic.

 

[PhilOhio]

Lancer,

 

Thanks. It worked. That fix was so obscure and convoluted, yet right there on the surface, that I would have never figured it out.

 

Guys,

 

You really owe it to yourselves, to educate yourselves in a defensive way, to look at the record of this Metzenbaum, and see just what he was and who were the members of his close political clique. It tells you a lot about the whole firearms prohibitionist cult. For example, I'll bet almost none of you, even the Ohioans, would know that this was the one person most responsible for forcing the Brady Bill into law. The man just never gave up, like a pit bull, and the Second Amendment was one of his primary targets. He didn't destroy all of it, but he chipped away some important pieces.

 

As the radical Democratic Party commies are having time to catch their breathes following the shocking news of their saint's death, they are beginning to rhapsodize. Here are three selections from the Toledo Blade, including an editorial:

 

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/s...amp;x=3&y=5

 

The best and longest full biographical coverage of his disgusting public record was in today's (Sunday, 16 March) Blade, but has not made it to their website yet. May be up tomorrow. It will total about one full page, with pictures.

 

Ted Kennedy is having a good cry over Howie's death. I imagine the Brady's are in agony, with tears streaming down Sarah's nicotine-stained moustache.

 

I wouldn't want this misinterpreted, but one of the single aspects which most angers and offends me is when a firearms prohibitionist tries to take advantage of his own race to play the race card, manipulating his constituency and the public in general, to misrepresent and get what he wants; that being, in this case, your rights. Howard Metzenbaum did that over his entire career. When he lost political battles, any battle, he was quick to blame it on "anti-semitism", and those dirty racist anglos. Metzenbaum shamelessly exploited his hometown ethnic groups in Cleveland, Toledo, and all over the state and the U.S. in precisely the same way, attempting to convince gullible Jewish people that racism existed where it did not. To me, this is one of the political sins which is beyond forgiveness. And it happens to a lesser degree (regarding firearms issues) in the black community. Personally, I think it behooves each and every one of us, as shooters, to do all that we can to negate that kind of hate mongering and bring into the tent anybody and everybody who might enjoy sharing our interests. I try. I'm glad to see that, in recent years, at least some people at NRA leadership levels have begun to agree, and act.

 

I say study this terrible man and his tactics, because you will see so much of it mirrored in the fixed methodology of people like New York Senator Charles Schumer, California's Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein, and their close allies in the gun ban movement. They are all members of the same political and ethnic group, talk to each other, deliberate on how best to misrepresent and get what they want, manipulate their fellows, etc. My belief has always been that if an issue, any issue at all, actually requires new legislation to accommplish a fix, you don't have to lie to make it fly. All of these people disagree.

 

The Blade goes happily on about Meetzenbaum's years of "lambasting" the NRA and pretty much all that is capitalism in America. But it ain't dead yet. At least, not quite.

[October1971]

Phil Ohio is right,

I remember both Dodd and Meztenbaum as the most anti-gun to ever come down the pike. And, yes, they have trained their successors well.

 

If I'm not mistaken, Metzenbaum was quoted in the Congressional Record one time ( when the issue of "undetectable guns" at airports was being bandied about) as follows: The pro gun person speaking was talking about how they needed to spend dollars on explosive sniffing machines rather than on gun legislation. Meztenbaum went into a rage, waved his arms wildly, and said: "I'm not interested in airport security" "I'm just interested in getting rid of these guns!" Dodd was equally as bad.

 

These were some of the most evil and powerful individuals ever to darken the halls of Congress. May they rest in Hell...

 

 

[PhilOhio]

Indeed, Bill. I marvel at how quickly younger minds forget, and how quickly time passes. But their younger allies on the left don't forget. They were at the funeral in droves, wailing and praising. They understand this guy's significance, and worship it.

 

Metzenbaum was known for his rage and tantrums. It got him what he wanted, most of the time. Our so-called friends did little to counter it. And they do zero to reverse and negate his anti-firearms accomplishments. This is the major sin for which the NRA and the Republican Party cannot be forgiven. It is the absolute bottom line.

 

When they have the power and the numbers and the authority to reverse bad legislation on the books, they don't do it. They lie and evade and tell us to think happy thoughts and move on into that bright, wonderful future.

 

...and, oh yes, to keep sending more money to Wayne LaPierre and the NRA so they can continue to protect us from the boogy man.

 

...as in the past.

 

Not enough people take smart pills.

[Whiskey Brother]

I hope Diane Fienstien doesn't make it to 90 like Metzenbaum, but stupid evil people seem to live long, feeding off of their hatred and stupidity, irritating us "unwashed masses" with their horsesh*t...

 

You would think an IQ beyond two digits would be a pre-requisite for public office, but most of the Democrats seem to hover around room temperature IQ levels....

 

It's a sad state of affairs where I am actually glad when a person dies, but I can't help myself. (Free Whiskey and Ammo for everybody when Fienstien gets planted!) As soon as I heard the news that Metzenbaum had died, a big 'ol smile split my face.

[PhilOhio]

I hope Diane Fienstien doesn't make it to 90 like Metzenbaum, but stupid evil people seem to live long, feeding off of their hatred and stupidity, irritating us "unwashed masses" with their horsesh*t...

 

You would think an IQ beyond two digits would be a pre-requisite for public office, but most of the Democrats seem to hover around room temperature IQ levels....

 

It's a sad state of affairs where I am actually glad when a person dies, but I can't help myself. (Free Whiskey and Ammo for everybody when Fienstien gets planted!) As soon as I heard the news that Metzenbaum had died, a big 'ol smile split my face.

Maybe having all that venom running in the blood stream works like formaldehyde, keeping them running and spitting more of it for extra years. Those types certainly do have staying power.

 

Let's keep an eye on Metzenbaum's slick talking son in law, Joel ("Hyatt") Zylberberg. Quite a few years ago, he made his first political run against our (current stinker senator) Voinovich. Joel was young, very politically ambitious, and not so well-heeled. Since then, he has put together quite a war chest as a lawyer. He has stayed active and influential in the Democratic party. He recently got himself onto the Hewlett-Packard board of directors; that took big money. And his wife has undoubtedly just inherited a few million from Howard Metzenbaum, who had stashed considerable loot which he had not seen fit to give away to the downtrodden. So keep an eye on Joel. Something tells me there is more anti-gun venom stored there, waiting to go for the gold when he thinks he can pull it off. This is a personable looking, smooth B.S.ing con man who has a lot of political life in him, is a political unknown outside of Ohio, has drive, and has a pile of cash that is undoubtedly still growing. He is something of a variation on Obama, but even more marketable among the unsuspecting.

Edited March 23, 2008 by PhilOhio