drm2m Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 (edited) http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC04299-1.jpg The leather. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/264kbsleatherDSC04332-2.jpg The stock markings. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/292kbscrossedcannonsDSC04364-2.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/280kbsPmarkingDSC04315-1.jpg Receiver markings and serial number. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC04301-1.jpg Barrel date. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/188kbsbarreldatemarkingsDSC04306-2.jpg Butt plate markings. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC04330.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/260kbsfullrightsideDSC04352.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC09431-1.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC05852.jpg Two other partners from 1942. Thompson M1928A1-manufactured Jan-Feb 1942. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC05120-1.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/CroppedresizedcloseupLeftsideins-1.jpg M1911A1 Colt delivered to the Springfield Armoury on June 25th 1942. Sn. 785826 ...W.B. inspected. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/624kbsDSC04625.jpg This M1911A1 Colt rig was brought by this vet (the fellow on the right)....he was an American that enlisted in the R.A.F. before the U.S. entered the war. It is an interesting story.....I have a lot of photos and background material on this fellow.....and his service. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC01654.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/EnglandperhapsDSC01880-1.jpg (To enlarge the image...click on the bar first.. then click again on the image.) http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/RAFFerryCommandCertificate.jpg R.A.F.F.C. as shown on the buttons is for Royal Air Force Ferry Command. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC01055.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC01666-1.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/84kbsthreemagazinesshowingColt45Aut.jpg The vet's name on his gear. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/268kbsTobinsnameonpouchesDSC02313.jpg R.A.F.F.C. on the rear of the holster...with the vet's name. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC01154.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC01092.jpg The vet's Pilot's Flying Log Book. (Full of stories.) http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/GSTobinsPilotsFlyingLogBookDSC02537.jpg Some of the aircraft he flew. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/AircraftflownbyCaptGSTobin-1.jpg Some of the routes he flew. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC00871.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC01054.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC01053.jpg An ammunition delivery to Cairo prior to the Battle of El Alamein in Egypt. (To view the image clearly-click on the bar..then click again on the image.) http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/Tobinphoto32.jpg A little WWII history revisited that involved "Ferry Command" to some degree. “The campaign in North Africa as we well remember had many ups and downs and during one of the “downs” Ferry Command was called to fly in great haste, a large quantity of ammunition required for the stand at El Alamein. A large fleet of Liberators took over this work and these group pictures are of the crews that operated them.” (the photo above is one of several.) The photo above shows some of the "Ferry Command" crews that were involved in this mission…….there were others. The caption under the photo above; “The final briefing before departure. The A.O.C.-in-C. tells the senior crew members that the job they are about to do is vital and very urgent.” The Battle of El Alamein, fought in the deserts of North Africa, is seen as one of the decisive victories of World War Two. The Battle of El Alamein was primarily fought between two of the outstanding commanders of World War Two, Montgomery, who succeeded the dismissed Auchinleck, and Rommel. The Allied victory at El Alamein lead to the retreat of the Afrika Korps and the German surrender in North Africa in May 1943. El Alamein is 150 miles west of Cairo. By the summer of 1942, the Allies were in trouble throughout Europe. The attack on Russia - Operation Barbarossa - had pushed the Russians back; U-boats were having a major effect on Britain in the Battle of the Atlantic and Western Europe seemed to be fully in the control of the Germans. El Alamein was a last stand for the Allies in North Africa. By November 2nd 1942, Rommel knew that he was beaten. Hitler ordered the Afrika Korps to fight to the last but Rommel refused to carry out this order. On November 4th, Rommel started his retreat. Twenty five thousand Germans and Italians had been killed or wounded in the battle as well as 13,000 Allied troops in the Eighth Army. David Edited September 19, 2009 by drm2m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 drm2m, Very nice, thats a collection most people only dream about. I have the older brother to your carbine . Inland #28,xxx. I think the barrel date is 8-42 and its in about the same shape as your carbine, mine is a std M1. Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Saunders Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Agree, that collection and the condition its in is superb, would make anyone envious!!! I also have a 1st run M1A1 but unfortunately its the younger brother of both of your carbines, INLAND #685xxx and its a rebuild RIA/EB w/ the later T3 sights & band. If drm2m would oblige, I'd love to see close-ups of your flip sight & T1 or 1A band. Thanks! Ric P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drm2m Posted September 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) Thanks Jim and Ric. There is an interesting provenance story associated with the M1911A1 rig...(See the end of the first post in this thread.) Ric, These are the photos I have in my photo archive for this M1A1 carbine....I hope they help you. David http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC04404.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC04303-1.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC04398.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC04419.jpg Edited September 18, 2009 by drm2m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Saunders Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 David Thanks a lot for posting the close-up photos of your M1A1 and those are really interesting photos you added about the owner of the 1911A1, the finish of that firearm will make any collector turn green with envy!! Well, here is my rebuild M1A1, it is not the best looking one, but its mine... Ric P. http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg198/rickyep007/DSC06043-1.jpg http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg198/rickyep007/DSC06046-1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 From the second contract, April 1944. http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv121/roscoeturner/M1A1Carbine2.jpg http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv121/roscoeturner/M1A1Carbine1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drm2m Posted September 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) Ric and Roscoe, Thanks for adding the photos of your M1A1s.....nice examples! These are quite interesting guns.....I think. I was quite pleased and surprised to find this M1A1 carbine in Canada….I had read a little regarding the availability of these guns in the U.S…..and before I bought this gun I passed the sellers photos by Bruce Canfield….to try and get a sense of what I was looking at with regard to these early guns. Based on the sellers photos ..Bruce very kindly took the time to give me his opinion….as best that he could …so I then decided to buy the gun....with my fingers crossed as the sellers photos were not that great. I also had great advice and insight from Jim Mock and Ted Tsyme from the M1 Carbine Club. I had previous experiences with these two guys regarding Bavarian Carbines.....of which I own two. Jim is the "main man" in that regard. I have added some additional stuff regarding the Colt M1911A1 rig and the vet that brought it back in the first post of this thread....for they that may be interested. David Edited September 19, 2009 by drm2m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 These are quite interesting guns.....I think. They are interesting to a point, I think the last one I bought was in 1988 or 1989. The only manufacturer I am missing is an Irwin Petersen. As compared to today the 80s were a good time to collect carbines; they were common, cheap and people had not got into fakes at that point as you see today. About the biggest worry you had then was watching out for rewelds. Depending on the maker they averaged between $175 and $250. Even M2s were cheap back then. The only reason I ended buying any was they were the consolation prize when I went to a show and did not find any P38s or P08s which were my main focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drm2m Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 (edited) Roscoe, You are right...once upon a time they all seemed cheap. The world of faking is alive and well....it presents a minefield to new (and old) collectors. If you were a Luger collector....look at how careful one must be today regarding Navy marked Imperial Lugers.. There is a continual debate regarding the correctness of these guns. I never got into Navy Lugers for this reason.....they are also very costly. I decided to to stick with an Artillery Luger...less problems. (DWM 1917 chamber dated.) And fortunately...this one is unit marked...with one matching magazine. I figure "thanks to lady luck"...I am ahead of the game...and that is where I stop. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/275kbspistolandholsterDSC01687-2.jpg Some accessories associated with the Artillery Luger. (LP08) http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/LP08andaccessories-1.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/208kbstopviewDSC007091.jpg Unit marking is 122nd Fusiliers Regiment (Wurttemberg) 4th Kompagnie (Company), # 6th Waffen (Weapon) "122 FÜSILIER REGIMENT (4.WURTTEMBERG) (122.R.4.6.)" http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/192kbsArtilleryUnitMarkingsongri-1.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/BarrelSerialNumberBest.jpg Matching magazine. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/LP08Matchingmagazine.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am not really a Luger collector...but I consider myself very lucky to have found these two P.08s. S/42 Mauser code 1937 and 1938 dated guns....both with two matching magazines. I think with the Artillery Luger and these two P.08s.....that will be the end of my Luger adventure. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/1937and1938S42P08sbothhavetwomat-3.jpg The matching magazines for these two P.08 Lugers. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/1937and1938matchingLugermagazinesSD.jpg Chamber dates on these two S/42s. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/1937and1938datedMauserCodeS42P08s.jpg Serial numbers on these two Lugers. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC05195.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC05126.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ My how the U.S. carbine and sidearms have changed over the years. Inland M1A1 carbine, 12-42. (To enlarge the image click on the bar first ----then click again on the image.) http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC05852.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/Picture003-2.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC08744-3.jpg New Model 1863 Sharps carbine, altered after the Civil War in 1867 to the 50-70 center fire cartridge for use during the Indian War period. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/SharpsCarbinerightreceivermarkin-1.jpg 50-70 cartridges for the Sharps carbine shown at the top of the photo below......different than for the M1A1 carbine. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC08682-1.jpg Cartridge box for the Sharps carbine....certainly different than the M1A1 carbine magazine pouch. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC08689-2.jpg --------------------------------------------------------------------- Some other carbines from this period. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/CopyofDSCN0009.jpg ____________________________________________________________ Two U.S. military marked Colts from different eras-- 1942 and 1863. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/ColtM1911A11942DSC01314-2.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC08835.jpg David Edited September 23, 2009 by drm2m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadycon Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 My work in progress;Real mixmaster to all Inland; 400xxx ser.#, 2nd gen stock, T-3 triggerhousing, T-2 slide, rd bolt, 12-43 barrel,UI band, N site, updated push safety, EI mag catch. 1943 dated & ragged sling. http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3868/m1a1rtside1000614.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 My work in progress;Real mixmaster to all Inland; 400xxx ser.#, 2nd gen stock, T-3 triggerhousing, T-2 slide, rd bolt, 12-43 barrel,UI band, N site, updated push safety, EI mag catch. 1943 dated & ragged sling. http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3868/m1a1rtside1000614.jpg shadycon, Stock looks flawless. Does it have a rebuild stamp on the other side? If I does then you needn't worry about it being a mixmaster. One of these days I"ll buy a camera and post a picture of my M1A1. Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadycon Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Jim c; answer to question, The only markings are RI3 on bottom of grip and OI insde of stock. drm2m; very nice collection! To everyone else; M1a1 are FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topos Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 My compliments to you on your great collection and taste ... mirrors mine, of course. My M1A1 is Inland 1944. As for artillery Luger and appurtenances I sold them to send my son through college. Never looked back. As a remembrance I kept the cleaning rod and the solid magazine. Advice given to me in 1956 by ROTC Sergeant " keep piston on Carbine lubed so it does not stick. Minimizes need to disassemble." It still works perfectly. Again, thanks for letting us see. Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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