Justice To The Thompson

[SubmarinerFan]

I'm sure this video has been seen by many forum members, I'll share it anyway.

 

As you know, guns are tools and you pick your tool based on the situation/problem. The Thompson, even after nearly 100 years, still can do what it was designed for and do it well. Good to see a video that highlights this.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2YtXMltows

[darrylta]

It's nice to see that a modern day officer is still packing a chopper.

To justify it here is preaching to the choir.

-Darryl

Edited September 7, 2010 by darrylta

[JimFromFL]

I wonder how true that is about the officer actually carrying it in his car.

[Waffen Und Bier]

I'd rather have an M4 or a Colt Commando any day on patrol. TSMG's had their place when nothing much else was available. If M4's were available in the 1920's-1940's, we would be hearing about how they were the "weapon of choice" (gag, puke) of gangsters or how they loved them (SFW if you ask me anyway- I don't care what gangsters, thugs, terrorists love) and while I'm on a rant, I hate the term "weapon of choice," just sayin.'

 

I love my Thompson, just like I love my Ingram M10, my M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, my MP44, my '92 Winchester, and my 1871 Colt, but for serious work against modern threats with body armor, the Thompson stays on display, in the safe, and on the range.

Edited September 10, 2010 by Waffen Und Bier

[Rayman1]

Well said.

[RoscoeTurner]

I'd rather have an M4 or a Colt Commando any day on patrol. TSMG's had their place when nothing much else was available. If M4's were available in the 1920's-1940's, we would be hearing about how they were the "weapon of choice" (gag, puke) of gangsters or how they loved them (SFW if you ask me anyway- I don't care what gangsters, thugs, terrorists love) and while I'm on a rant, I hate the term "weapon of choice," just sayin.'

 

I love my Thompson, just like I love my Ingram M10, my M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, my MP44, my '92 Winchester, and my 1871 Colt, but for serious work against modern threats with body armor, the Thompson stays on display, in the safe, and on the range.

 

 

I carried a CAR15 in El Salvador in 1989 and I thought the thing was a piece of crap. Swapped it out for an MP5 as soon as I could, the MP5 was the only other choice of weapons other than our pistols of which I used a Browning Hi-Power. The M16 series has never been a firearm I felt I could depend on. At least with a Thompson when I pull the trigger I know it is going to fire, can't say the same for a M4.

 

No matter what weapon a soldier or LEO chooses he needs to choose one he feels is 100% dependable. It does not matter how effective a modern firearm may be against modern threats, if it does not operate with 100% dependability you might as well carry a golf club.

[Waffen Und Bier]

Of course one has to carry what they trust and feel most comfortable with, but we don't always have a choice. I was just speaking for myself based on my experiences.

 

Roscoe, Was your CAR-15 an original, unmodified Colt mfg. USGI one? Was it previously used (abused)? Thx.

[RoscoeTurner]

Of course one has to carry what they trust and feel most comfortable with, but we don't always have a choice. I was just speaking for myself based on my experiences.

 

Roscoe, Was your CAR-15 an original, unmodified Colt mfg. USGI one? Was it previously used (abused)? Thx.

 

 

It was a USGI issue weapon, Colt Model 653. We had about twenty of them.

 

 

[Waffen Und Bier]

Unless it it was NIB I wouldn't trust it (regardless of what it was) and only then after breaking it in (and having a back up with me....and friends with guns...and back up guns... and air/artillery support is nice too.). I guess it's just as important to know the history of the individual weapon. My Savage M1A1 came out of a PD circa 1990. It would not function. I had to switch the bolt to get it to run.

 

I was able to run an MP5 until it wouldn't.......once (I like them and have owned 5 over the years). A friend came in first place at a subgun match because the guy who was in first had the MP5 extractor spring fail causing his gun to stop running.

 

I've owned my 653 (M16A1 carbine) for 20 years. It was gently owned/used before that. Sure, it's a range toy and I never detail cleaned it (just spray it down with oil and wipe). It's never failed me. Same for my 733 that I've had for about 14 years. We tortured a brand new postie Colt M16A2 to intentionally blow it up (leaving came pins out, plugging bore with dirt, etc). Finally got it to blow a magazine out the bottom but IIRC the rifle was relatively unscathed.

 

I've seen at least one AK with a popped receiver and a Vickers with a bent top cover. And Glocks other than 9mm. I guess point I'm trying to make is any weapon system can fail (and sometimes catastrophically). Depends on the age and condition of the weapon, the ammo, the mags, etc. Sometimes it's just your turn.

 

Now, I would not want to get hit with a .22 lr, let alone a 5.56mm or a .45, but going up against a bad guy who had body armor, I would want a 5.56mm with the ergonomics of an M4 and not .45 ACP with the ergonomics of an M1A1. That's all. :agree: