John Thedford
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Just received a 1928 Thompson marked West Hurley, NY. I have handled quite a few of these over the years. This is the first one I have ever seen that had an AOC prefix to the serial number. These might be discussed in the Thompson books which I have not had a chance to reference yet. So....I came to the place where all the Thompson experts are! Any input would be appreciated. Thanks John Thedford NFA Sales
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2010 Sar Show East
John Thedford replied to aut-ord-co's topic in Thompson Submachine Gun Message Board
Please be sure and get some pics posted of the display for those of us that can't make the show. -
What Is The Overall Length Of A 1921 Ac
John Thedford replied to Harvey's topic in Thompson Submachine Gun Message Board
I have been told by several examiners that the only items they look at are the transferee, transferor, manufacturer, S/N, type of firearm, and FFL/EIN numbers if submitted. I can't say this is completely true but I have submitted several transfers with no barrel length or overall length and they have all come back approved. -
$995,000 1921 Thompson
John Thedford replied to philasteen's topic in Thompson Submachine Gun Message Board
Hmmm..come on guys. Quit berating this fellow collector! It IS his product to price as he wishes. Maybe a more appropriate ad would have stated "POR"...for "priced over retail" Then everyone would have emailed or called for his price.... -
Colt Thompson #1751 For Sale $56k
John Thedford replied to Sig's topic in Thompson Submachine Gun Message Board
thats the ballpark I was thinking....maybe 25k-27k no drum with the gun glad I moved out the last one when I did...as I recall I had close to 30k in it... -
Colt Thompson #1751 For Sale $56k
John Thedford replied to Sig's topic in Thompson Submachine Gun Message Board
That price seems high in todays market...but it is his gun...and more power to him if he can pull that kind of money on it (of course...here we go again with the "something is only worth what someone will pay for it" reasoning). I currently have a bid on a 21A. It was represented as a 90% gun...after inspecting pictures I felt that was optimistic. I do know the first bidder came in somewhere around 12k on the gun...and I am in the running for it for quite a bit more money than that. I am starting to wonder after reading these comments on current pricing...what legitimate pricing would be for a nice original gun that might be 80-85% in the average buyers opinion. One note on the % grading though" many sellers I talk to are no longer assigning a % of condition...due to that being so subjective. It has been a while since I had a 21 for sale..and I hope to snag this one and get to dump a drum or two before I let her go..... -
Parts Classification
John Thedford replied to Doug Richardson's topic in Thompson Submachine Gun Message Board
I don't like the "new original" classification either. Reproduction sounds more appropriate. -
Nickel Thompson Back For Sale
John Thedford replied to philasteen's topic in Thompson Submachine Gun Message Board
If a FFL purchases an NFA item from an individual it is purchased via F4. When transferred to a dealer..it transfers out on F3. Guns are not "on" forms...they transfer on a form. I know Joe and like him. Seems like a nice guy. That being said...he could easily have omitted any reference to the potential buyer he could not come to terms with...and simply ignored any email. Maybe he was just having a tough day..and sometimes..when you type something...then hit send....then think it over..you wish you had a "recall button" on the keyboard:) -
Nickel Thompson Back For Sale
John Thedford replied to philasteen's topic in Thompson Submachine Gun Message Board
I know renovate well...have bought and sold several guns with him. Every one of our transactions has been great. I may be bashed, banned, burned at the stake, whatever but in my personal experience I place no value on the recommended list. I know several of the guys there and would deal with them without hesitation but having seen outright dishonest practicies by some that still remain there (the last time I looked---quite some time ago) I personally have no faith in the list in general. Some may know that I have a Class III directory..and some of those recommended dealers have chosen to advertise on our directory. We are happy to list valid FFL/SOT holders and I absolutely have NO INTEREST in policing the list. We have a disclaimer near the top of the website telling buyers and sellers to do their due dilligence before committing to a deal. As one poster said earlier...there are two sides to every story. As far the pimped out Thompson...there is a saying that something is only worth what someone will pay for it. I like to add "knowledgeable buyer" into the caveat somewhere.... -
I will see how things work out. There is someone in the family and an illness involved and was informed today that the person I had been talking to will not be available. I was informed someone else will be handling these and I don't know if the original price quoted to me is still good. My original intention was to take them all and sell them at the creek...but will have to wait and see how things work out (if they do at all). I do have some WWII drums here at my shop as well...have never put them on the market. I don't currently have a 21 or 28 to use them with...though I do have an offer in on a 21AC in a department.
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I have an opportunity to purchase a few dozen WWII era Thompson drums. At this time they are sight unseen but have been told they are new in wrap. Values? Also...what kind of demand for them? If they are cheap enough I want to dump them at the creek. John Thedford NFA Sales http://www.nfasales.com also site owner and admin for http://www.ClassIIIdealers.com
