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My father in WWII, with his Thompson
ordmm replied to Dolphinvet's topic in Thompson Submachine Gun Message Board
Here's one source......http://www.history.army.mil/html/books/011/11-7-1/ I'd never heard about that book, would be interesting to get a copy of it. It was from the Battle of the Bulge that my dad was awarded the Bronze Star. He never would speak much about that battle, except to say it was really cold. -
My father in WWII, with his Thompson
ordmm replied to Dolphinvet's topic in Thompson Submachine Gun Message Board
Great picture! Thanks for posting. Don't know if you've ever read it but one of the "Green Books" entitling "Three Battles, Arnaville, Altuzzo, and Schmidt" covers the individual battles in detail in perspective of small unit actions. For a time, and maybe still, the book was used as a textbook by the military. Excellent history. -
Bm59 Barrel Configuration...new Barrel Run...how Do You Want It?
ordmm replied to ordmm's topic in BM59 Message Boards
Been a long dragged out process for a number of reasons. But anyway they are done. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=363200426 or website: https://www.standardpartsllc.com/productcart/pc/viewcategories.asp?idCategory=36 Should make things easier if your building a clone or need a barrel to complete a Northridge folder kit. Regards, Greg -
Bm59 Barrel Configuration...new Barrel Run...how Do You Want It?
ordmm replied to ordmm's topic in BM59 Message Boards
Yeah. Guess your right on that. -
Bm59 Barrel Configuration...new Barrel Run...how Do You Want It?
ordmm replied to ordmm's topic in BM59 Message Boards
Well, we've has a few bumps in the road on this project. Barack conspired to create a situation where all the barrels being turned have been for AR's and AK's. But things are progressing. Providing things don't take some kind of crazy turn,,,,maybe we are 4 to 6 weeks out on these. Still need muzzle crown, feed ramps and a couple other machining ops. Will be plenty to go around. Thanks for the interest. -
I'm with you for obtaining an actual military manual for the BM59. The most often seen manual, sometimes seen as a spiral bound book, is more a piece of multi language sales literature. Interesting and lots of info but not really what we accept as a military manual. Must be something out there, have asked many, but the cover sheet you provide is the only clue to anything that exists. One would think that there would also be something printed for the "E" models also. If you find anything please let us know.
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Am thinking the best way to approach the build is the way Beretta did the BM62/69 rifles. Essentially they were the same as the BM59-- they lacked the parts and machining that would have made them a select fire rifle. They also complied with provisions of import restrictions at the time, which accounts for no bayo lug, and the "no holes or slots" muzzle device. Pretty much the same as the M1A. A M1A is not really a M14, but it is a look alike semi-auto. So it goes with the BM62/69...Not really a BM59 but looks the same. It looks like the Northridge kit will need a front mag catch, op spring guide, bolt catch, op-rod, rear sight, lower band/clip and maybe a couple small springs and pins. I've only looked at one of the Northridge kits in person. The parts were very nice and my feeling is they are a pretty good value considering just the folding stocks were bringing $400. or more not too long ago. Depending where you live, the tri-compensator may be an issue. If you have access to a mill and the skill set you could probably modify a Garand receiver. The barrel needs to be cut back and new splines and threads cut. The lower band platform needs to be redonet to accommodate a real deal BM lower band. So you have to cost out a donor receiver and barrel along with labor to figure in. Tim Shufflin can do the receiver and barrel you'll need to do a BM62/69 clone. Tony Giacobbe has receivers that accept BM59 mags. I've done business with both and they are honest people. Best to contact Tim or Tony as to pricing based on where you want to go with your build. Both guys have the ability to deliver their product with fairly short lead times which has not been true of other builders. The only legal limiting factor, I'M GUESSING, is what your local or state laws allow regarding clip fed semi-auto weapons and whatever features or accessories they have on them. As far a total cost and what is considered expensive that's up the person commisioning the build. One of the nice things about these is that they can incorporate the features you want. So you end up with the rifle you want. One other thing.....The more you look at the BM series rifles, you'll see that Beretta really put together an excellent an versatile platform. Judging by the input on various boards the rifles perform quite well. Hope this helps. Greg
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Bm59 Barrel Configuration...new Barrel Run...how Do You Want It?
ordmm replied to ordmm's topic in BM59 Message Boards
Thank for checking... Barrels: Still waiting. New "revised" delivery date is end of this month, Jan/2013. We are somewhat at the mercy of the AR frenzy thing. Our order is quite small and fills "green time" on the schedule wth the barrel guys. The demand for AR barrels has gone unabated now for over 6 months so we wait. Lower bands: Have a BM type lower band in the works. Probably 8 to 10 weeks out. Appearance wise will look pretty much like the BM band, but without the clip. Will use the pin to retain it as in a standard Garand. On a side note....Lots of builds it would seem are in progress or are completed. I know Tim Shufflin is real busy as is Tony Giacobbe. Many people it would seem judging by parts sales are doing a BM clone build of one type or another. Regards, Greg -
We have some in stock. Good metal, wood needs refinish $300. Really nice $450.00. One only,,,,absolutely new old stock $575.00 You can contact thru website..... www.standardpartsllc.com
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Bm59 Barrel Configuration...new Barrel Run...how Do You Want It?
ordmm replied to ordmm's topic in BM59 Message Boards
We've scheduled a pretty good run on this barrel. Greg -
Bm59 Barrel Configuration...new Barrel Run...how Do You Want It?
ordmm replied to ordmm's topic in BM59 Message Boards
OK....It's been a longer period of time then we would have liked, but a BM59 replacement barrel is being done. We've cut the PO, and the barrels are being run. Going by past experience with other barrel projects these will most probably be available sometime in November. They will be a "5 ring" clone 19 1/4 inch long. Standard GI from the band back so these will use standard handguards. Gas port will be 15 3/16 from barrel to receiver contact point to center of gas port. The barrel will use a standard M1 Garand platform. We are also doing a BM59'ish lower band that will use the roll pin instead of the clip. The barrel will be short chambered in .308 Winchester. We are doing the "5 ring" so most all of the muzzle attachments can be utilized at leaving the barrel full length or by cutting the muzzle back which is a pretty simple task. The barrel will not have the milled out cuts aft of the barrel band. The gas lock screw threads will be same as the BM59 which means there are more threads than on a standard Garand. It will be 4 groove 1/10 twist. We anticipate a well under $200. price tag. Can't give anymore details at this time. Will post when they are ready. Greg -
I am totally consumed with envy! You are a very lucky person. Have fun with it! Greg
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Don't mean to poke the bear with a stick ...so to speak. But we are out of para brakes and tri-comps. Please no more emails. Only had one barrel and it's gone. Am working on getting the pickers to give up another stash for whiskey money...but unless Steve wants to sell you his...we are out. Thanks for the emails on this, but at this time it looks like there are no more brakes to be had from our sources. Only in America! A bit of negative press turns into a very nice sales event! Best regards. Greg
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WOW! Guess we quit sellng parts. My apologies to anyone on this site who I pissed off. Won't happen again. Greg
