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Kilroy, That would be great. Looking forward to seeing it. Keith

hntrdarren, Great post and thank you for your time and pictures! That is very interesting, your Seymour Products Co. XXX, "V" marked magazine. Your magazine has the same markings on the Seymour Products, with all punctuation, "commas and periods", the same as my nickel plated Seymour Products "V" marked posted above.. As you can see on my magazine, my "V" is marked at the top of the magazine and obviously your magazine posted, the "V" is at the bottom of the magazine, like my SWCO "V" marked. So now we know the Seymour Products Company stamped the "V" either on the Top or the bottom of the 30rd magazine; so two variation of "V" marked. I did not know that; great information.

Very nice! Great Job! How did you do the line-up mark on receiver/barrel? Did you make the JHB Stamp?

Ron, Do you have those pictures to post to this thread of your "V" marked magazine? Anyone else out there with pictures/info to share?

For your reading pleasure and interest: Extremely Rare Sparks-Withington XXX (30rd) magazine marked with the rare "V" for Victory mark! Also the XXX magazine is marked "SWCO" with no period "." after. Most of the Sparks-Withington magazines, including the Sparks-Withington XXX (30rd) magazine picture posted in the pinned Thompson Box and Drum Magazine Guide are marked "SWCO." with the period after the letters. The first 8 pictures below are all of the same magazine I own. It is marked "SWCO " without a period "." after SWCO. It is also marked with the "V" for Victory marking located near the bottom front of the magazine. I looked all over for a reference on the internet, including the pinned Thompson Forum magazine guide and nothing that states Sparks-Withington (SWCO) made a special run of the "V" marked magazine. This magazine may be a first one to come out and to be known that they are in existence. You'll see in the first 3 pictures when the mag was untouched and how it looked when I purchased it. In the next 5 pictures I cleaned up the magazine, got rid of most of the rust on the bottom of the magazine, where the "V" mark is, and re-blu'd the area. I then whitened the lettering to bring out everything for easier viewing. In the last 3 pictures you will see my original Seymour Products XXX "V" for Victory marked magazine for reference. I didn't nickel the magazine and wish it wasn't, but it's rare and the only one I ever found. You will see on the Seymour 30rd magazine they placed the "V" near the top of the front of the magazine. On the Sparks-Withington SWCO 30 round magazine they placed the "V" near the bottom. Another item/picture to denote is again that Sparks-Withington made two types of magazine markings of their name during their production run. I believe the older marking is: "SWCO." with the dot after the letters. I believe, due to the "V" marked magazine have the "SWCO " with out the dot, after the letters, that the later production run had no period after the abbreviation name "SWCO" This may also another good reference and a picture to put in the pinned section, that there is two different SWCO marked XXX magazines. I have another SWCO marked magazine, that is only marked SWCO without the period, if we need another picture of another XXX magazine without the "V" on it. So I hope that this information can be used for the Thompson drum and magazine pinned information. If anyone out there has "V" marked XXX 30 round magazine(s) please post them to this forum topic so we all can see them and the markings. Nothing has been modified/faked. I don't have the "V" marked Crosby yet, so I am interested in seeing one.

All, I was actually able to find and purchase a correct and real oiler for the Colt Thompson 1921. I have included 11 pictures for reference. All 11 pictures are of the same Colt 1921 oiler. This will make a nice piece to put with my 1921 Colt 21AC display replica that I will be building in the future. I hope that these pictures will help some with the details of the knowing/finding a correct/real Colt 1921 oiler. That's good news!

Very interesting Bob. I wonder what it was for? Maybe you are correct. Thank you for sharing.

Michael, No problem, thank you for responding. I assume you've been on Sarco and Numrich? T Hound Yes, Thank you.

Michael, No problem, thank you for responding.

Bump, any help out there?

Hello all and good day to you. Spring is all most here! In case any of you could help me out, I wanted to list the parts I require/need for some proper project replica/display Thompsons. I wish to build in the future for me, (not to sell). If you have any of the below parts and are willing to part with them, please PM me. AOC Thompson M1 Display project: AOC marked M1 Front Sight (I have an “S” Savage marked Front Sight to trade if you need it) AOC marked Rear Sight with ears (maybe I will make an AOC M1A1 instead, so to be prepared) AOC marked milled grip mount or worst case an AOC marked late rivet style grip mount “L” Lyman Sight with Lyman name and address Non-Cross bolt M1 Stock “P” marked M1 barrel – worn out/wore Thompson 1928A1 Display (Early 1 model st Gen) project: Early Knurled Pivot Selector GI (Did only Savage make these?) Early non-hole mag catch GI (Did only Savage make these?) Thompson 1928A1 (Mid Production 2nd Gen) “L” Lyman Sight with Lyman name and address Colt 1921 AC Display Replica Colt style lower receiver grip (correct look/contours exactly as a Colt 21) Colt style front vertical grip (correct look contours exactly as a Colt 21) Actual Cutts Type 2 Compensator (want to replace my replace type 1 replica compensator on the blank barrel, if I use it) Milled grip mount Possibly a worn out Colt 21 barrel or replica Colt 21 barrel that is worn out with the proper fins contours, (then I would not use that blank barrel) Any help greatly appreciated. Trying to keep the history alive :-). Thank you, Keith

I believe Thompson Barrels.com makes display stands: thompsonbarrels@yahoo.com.

Frank, I'm sure there are many of us that do not have American Thunder II. Do you want to post the information please? I and many others are awaiting your American Thunder III for all that great information. Any update Frank on when AT III will be published and out for sale?

Update on this blank firing barrel. I reviewed the Stembridge movie forum post, (thank you gijive), and I learned that those blank barrels were made to fire 30-06 cut down casings as blanks. Well I got this barrel out and took .45 round and tried to put it in the chamber. It would not fit. Then I took a 30-06 round and place it backwards, with the primer side going in the chamber first, and the 30-06 round fits the chamber perfectly. So it was made to fire those 30-06 blank rounds.

Ron, Thank you for the info. I am getting that barrel and the L Lyman sight. Thanks again, Keith

Mark 2112, Attached are pictures of my work today, on a old GI original slide/latch, to make it look like a near authentic Colt/Remington 1921 latch/slide, for my replica 21 stock/no hole for sling swivel stock . Thank you Chuck, (gijive), for the technique information on how to make my latch look like a Colt/Remington latch! I started with a GI Slide latch that had rust on it. I used a wire wheel and took off all the rust on top of the latch and the finish came off of course. I totally cleaned the latch and got off all the grease, etc. I took the pin out of the latch on the slide and used a high speed stainless wire wheel to the latch to remove all the finish. The pictures you actually see are what the latch looks like in the "white". Obviously the GI latches have a lot of nickel in them also. The latch looks now looks like a near authentic Colt 1921/Remington latch. I cold blu'd using "birtchwood casey gun blu", the slide and got a near lighter blue Colt look to the slide. I put it all together and what you see is the result. So you don't need to coat your latch. Do exactly what I did and you'll be on your way. Mark, when you figure out how to make the replica screw that is round and the correct length to make our GI milled Butt plates look like Remington/Colt Butt plates, hopefully you can hook me up and make me one also while your making yours? I also have a good friend, I met on this forum (pjr2412), who wants to do one 1921 replica build also and he would need one, so maybe make 3? I want to use an older GI butt plate I have, that is numbered, and totally wire wheel it and clean and re-blu it and use a replacement screw in the cover, so it has the near exact Colt/Remington butt plate look for my replica 1921 display build, I want to do in the future. Hope this information helps you and your endeavor of making that display build you have even more impressive and more correct. Have a good night. Keith

Well I had off work today, so I worked on the front sight pin in the M1A1 display model and touch up/re-bluing the barrel band and front sight pin after install. The first two pictures are the front sight pin in and the second two pictures is the job completed with re-bluing. Thought I'd share. Thank you so much Chuck (gijive) for the help.

Mark, PK emailed me back today. His correct email address is: P-K@q.com You can email him there for any work you may need. Keith

Mark, I just seen this last post from you. If your going that far with doing the mag catch you need to buy a GI paddle smooth 1928A1 pivot lever and a safety so you can checker them with the proper positive style checkering like the Colt Thompson's have. You have to profile them correctly and drill a whole in the safety like the original. Let me know it comes out. Your safety and pivot lever are like the early Savage type, not proper for a Colt 1921. They are current Kahr Arms ones correct?

Mark, If your butt plate comes out well for making a Colt/Remington 1921 repo butt plate please let me know. I want to eventually build a replica/dummy 1921AC with a Doug Richardson replica receiver. I could send you my butt plate to make the screw head proper like the 21 for my display gun, so then I would have a repo-butt plate also; take of a fellow local Illinois brother? I have a stock from an early 1928 model that has no swivel cut out that will be perfect for my replica 1921AC build. Also mark I was told you need to take off all the finish on your latch on your 1928 Stock to make it look near "nickel". All 1921 Colt Thompson "Remington" made stocks had a "nickel steel" latch". I am enclosing a picture from Larry on the board sent me of the Colt Latch. One more thing Mark, did you get a hold of "PK" Paul Krogh, Diamond K Gunsmitthing in Colorado for your levers and mag catch to get them modified to near original 1921 controls? gijive (Chuck) from the forums said PK does outstanding work on the pivot lever, safety, and mag catch from standard 1928A1 controls that you send him to make perfect looking replica Thomspon 1921 controls. I was wondering how much he charges. I send PK an email, but I never got a response.

Anyone else out there may have a worn out or not to bad bulged 1928 Finned barrel I could use? Please PM if you do. Thank you!

I did send this oiler back and I received my money back. I agree with all that obviously someone must of nickeled it. Great discussion on it and thank you all for the help.

reconbob (Bob), Attached are the pictures of the Stamped 1928A1 late production butt plate. You can see on the back of the plate there is not a protrusion of the screw like the Colt 1921 Remington Butt plates and the Military GI 1928 milled earlier butt plates. There is no manufacture marking on it. I am glad that posting my replica has brought out some questions and answers for some good topic areas. Good Stuff!

Mark 2112, COLT & MILITARY BUTT PLATES: gijive (Chuck) posted a wonderful forum topic and information on the Colt and military butt plates www.machinegunboards.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11538 (this link works now) Here are some pictures of actual original Colt 1921 Butt plates.You can see that on the Colt 1921 Thompson "Remington" butt plate that the screw protrusion has a rounded screw. The military GI milled 1928 butt plate has a screw protrusion, but they ground the screw flat, so the the protrusion isn't rounded like on the Colt "Remington" original 1921 Thompson butt plates. So as you can see the military 1928 Milled butt plate with the screw protrusion would be the closest to an original 1921 Colt butt plate.

There is one version that has the address along with the "Lyman". It also has the stamped pattern surrounding the aperture. Paul Paul, Great job on the pictures and elaborating on the butt plate and Lyman L sight differences. Thank you for sharing.