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Two members posted their British converted stock set. The screws are on different positions. One of them is like my stock set with dowels. Basically the right screw is more to the edge. Any ideas why this was done on different ways?

Hi DZelenka, can you perhaps make a photo of the swivel position on the buttstock? I found some British stock set parts within my stack. Found out (based on my buttstocks) that the swivel on top is closer to the buttplate on the British non cross lug buttstock, compared to the Greek cross bolt converted buttstocks. Check my other thread, I posted some photos.

Nice. I just cleaned more stock sets. I found two buttstocks without cross bolt, one of them has similar dowel fixes. I also observed that the swivel on top is closer to the buttplate, than all the Greek postwar converted stock sets I have. There is also a brass nail in the wood patched hole on the bottom. So now I have a set? Maybe I'll add the screws in the side again. Are these still available?

A few years ago I found these boxes with Thompson stock sets. A part went to collectors here. I still have some bits and pieces. Mostly stripped stock sets. Today I cleaned some parts and found a forend with patched holes right in the middle. Is this an original British converted forend?

I also have a question about 'nut' marked stock sets versus 'nut + d' marked stock sets. I found several of these (stripped wood cross bolt stock sets). Are these all in fact d stock sets or is the 'nut' mark an universal maker mark? So not related related to this specific maker? I have 4 with Dittenborn marks, however there are also big S markts on the back, where the buttplate goes. So two different maker marks on one stock set? Best regards Tommy

I have one more question about non American forends. I observed a walnut or beech (?) forend. I'm no expert on wood, the grain looks different. I made photos next to a more reddish-brown olive wood (?) forend. The forend in question is not converted (like the olive wood examples which I showed before), so original swivel on the side. Anything special? Best regards Tommy

Thank you for your help, the 'unmarked' one has a 'M' mark on a different spot, that's why I couldn't find it. Haven't seen this before... The other one with faint marks, well I cleaned it a bit on top. It shows either marks or scratches on two spots. One of them almost looks like a 7? I think the other mark near the screw is indeed an unclear S mark. Best regards Tommy

Hi, I found some pistol grips with markings other than S and M. I can't figure out who made these. Any help is appreciated. I made photos from different angles. Best regards Tommy

I haven't figured out what the newer looking forends are. I guess the Greek made these. Best regards Tommy

Roger, I looked on the internet for Turkish Thompsons. I think these have a swivel on the bottom? We need a board member with the same for end on his Thompson, to be sure. Best regards Tommy

Mike, all my buttstocks had the conversion and all marked in a way. So US WWII made. Only about 5-10 for ends with hoods on the side and not marked. Not sure how to see it's olive wood Best regards Tommy

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One more question.. I found some for ends being not patched, so original swivel configuration on the side. Any information on these? (manufacturer, period) These came off American 1928a1's reused in Greece as well. I removed the American swivels, these were just like the others. Best regards Tommy

I have some 1928a1 wood. Some with uncommon marks. Buttstock and forend swivels on different places, rear grip original. Email me if you need anything. The more you buy, the cheaper it becomes. Best regards Tommy us1945@hotmail.com

I have wood sets, fair priced. The buttstock and frontend have converted swivels (and an unaltered rear grip). You might can screw the swivels back to the original places. Front grip only 129+20sh, complete set including rear grip for $180+35sh. Email me for photos. Best regards Tommy us1945@hotmail.com

Guys, some might have seen my other thread. I have sets of original U.S. WWII Thompson M1928a1 wood: buttstock, rear grip and for end for roughly $180-200+35sh (average used to a little better condition). The catch: the buttstock and front end have altered swivels (probably not British I recently learned). For this price you can use the hardware only and keep the spare parts. (The rear grip isn't modified it seems.. So that's already worth $125-150 to most collectors). Sent me a PM or email. I would sell a S or M front grip for $150 shipped (insured airmail included, also tracking) Best regards Tommy Us1945@hotmail.com

Thank you again for posting these photos. So 'textbook' British conversion stock sets look slightly different. Could these checked versions early or maybe just an another variation of British reuse? Best regards Tommy

Gijive: "Early Savage stocks will have a four-digit production number stamped on the inside rear of the wood butt stock and the butt plate" I can't find any four digit serial number. Or is it in the wood under the buttplate? I know that the Germans did put dates and codes under k98k buttplates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bridgeport: "anchor marked Colt" I haven't seen this mark yet, unless it has an arrow also. I only can see a part of the marking. Btw yes 48 is about right. There are color variations. on average, most grips are black-browns or either brown. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dzelenka: "they use M1A1 swivels and the swivels are attached in the rear of the wood rather than the front" Interesting, so what's a typical M1928a1 swivel? Or do you mean that the heavier swivel should be at the buttstock and the ligher one to the forend? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TSMGuy: "Right, all Thompson parts and spare parts were made before the end of WWII" Great, that makes it easier. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M3bobby: "fore ends are not checkered" Can you specify what you mean with this ? Do you mean a crosshatch pattern? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Adg: "I'm curious if there's any D (Dittenborn) marked grips" Yep only one grip :) Did I do good? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reconbob: "Found where?" These are probably Greek indeed. I have no idea to be honest. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi guys, thank you for your information so far. I already learned a lot. I'll post some photos of markings I observed, I might forgot one or two. Buttstocks: Unmarked (as far I could see) X marked X marked and a number such as 2 or 9 N marked (seems to be under representated) O.G.E.K. marked (seems to be under representated) Arrow marked (seems to be under representated) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Grips: M marked (very common) S marked (very common) Unmarked (seems to be under representated) D (captital) marked (seems to be under representated) 6 or 9 marked (seems to be under representated) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Forends: (all these markings seems to be under representated) Unmarked P marked Boxed P and 1 marked F and G marked F marked K and S marked Best regards Tommy

Thank you GiJive, is it possible to see the difference between a pre war set or one that was manufactured between lets say 1940-1945. I mean was this style manufactured through the rest of the war? I saw a 'n' mark in one of the sets. Best regards Tommy

Hello all, I found some boxes with Thompson M1928a1 wood. British conversion. Anything to say about styles related to manufactury dates? (I assume these were made before 1945) Thank you for looking! Best regards Tommy

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Chris,I have a few original German WWII Mp40 slings ($150+sh) and loader tools (as of today: 98e 41 and kur43 ($225+sh). And I have a Mp38 loader which cost slightly more. Not post made, the real McCoy. Best regards Tommy Us1945@hotmail.com

I found a Mp38 speedloader last week. I already auctioned it yesterday. Ones you found a Mp38, you'll have a hard time finding an original speedloader and magazine without M.P.38 u 40 marks. Buy stuff when you see it Best regards Tommy Us1945@hotmail.com

I still have several original German slings on hand, for Mg42, k98k and Mp38/40. Most so called German Mp slings are indeed often post war slings and worth $50 as a reproduction+. Original German slings in dark brown used condition cost about $150-175 and up. If this forum has a for sale section, then I'll list next week some original German Mp38/40 slings. Best regards Tommy Us1945@hotmail.com