Global Collector

Brief project update: Pics 1 and 2 Grip mount roughed out. Pic 3. Grip hung and Comp roughed out

Thanks HANS, Message has been sent! One could ponder that the process of scanning and publishing All of the JODIL file for the masses once, would save them time over responding individually to even a relatively small # of FOIA requests. But, Government...

Well that's nice of them.

I am having trouble finding it. The last marked complete page I see is marked 62-29777-1404, on this site: https://vault.fbi.gov/John%20Dillinger%20/john/john-dillinger-gang-part-30-of/view Perhaps I am not searching correctly? Is there more pages somewhere else?

deerslayer, Thanks for the tip, I just took a look at them and I may have to pick one up! HANS, just curious if you know the source for that info of SA Baughman taking it to Lyman? Id like to read it if can find it. I just read the FBI file of Agent Gus Jones searching Lebman's shop and Lebman's statements. Neat stuff to read first hand!

Well this discussion has certainly given me some guidance. Thanks all for your input so far! Many forums are not so open right off to new accounts. This has been great! Am I correct in saying the tubing made compensators are just tacked onto the standard bushing? I bought one of the widely available 3 slot comps made by Innovative Industries ( or something close to that) They are nice, made of steel, but too short. I contacted the company about making a longer one. They replied and said they may consider a small batch in the future. I don't feel like waiting that long... when it may never come.

Thanks deerslayer, I just feel like weld might be stronger for handling, with the long front grip providing lots of leverage, over a long term / time of use, As a NFA Item, I would like the piece to last generations if possible. Appreciate the pictures too.

OK so to clarify, the screws used for attachment are going down from inside of the frame into the tapped mount with the head inside the frame? or going up through the mount and threaded into the frame with the heads countersunk into the bottom side of the mount?

OK, Thanks for the input! I'm kind of leaning toward the DIY mount now. It makes economic sense anyway. Like I said im just stumbling through ideas at this point, dont really have a extensive background in gunsmithing. IF Dan Block or anyone else could provide their info or pictures of the mounting attachment also that would be helpful as well.

jl7422 Thanks for the reply, So your saying to not weld the mount to the trigger guard but just to the bottom of the frame in front of the trigger guard? I was concerned this area was too thin, but im not a welding or gun smiting / 1911 expert by any means. Im not going to weld this personally as im not skilled enough for nice looking welds, only functional equipment repairs... I need to find a sympathetic smith, willing to take on the project in the midwest. I have seen and read the many posts and enthusiasm Sandy had for the subject. It is sad his time of contributing is gone, I hope some, if not most of his knowledge and research material is in good hands. I have included a drawing of my original idea for modifying the TSMG grip mount.

Hi all, new to posting on the forum, I've been here a few times in the past to do some reading, love the historical content and discussions there of. Anyway, I'm in the process of building my own semi-auto only, NFA Form 1ed, H Lebman colt mini replica (though not on a period colt as this going to be a shooter). My questions are related to how the TSMG grip is mounted to the 1911 frame. I've seen several of the replicas members here have built, but i've never seen or read how the originals were mounted. On this forum, ive read variations of attachment ranging from riveting, to silver soldering, to tig welding the grip mount on. I like the idea of solid welding as I want the front grip to be SOLID when handled a lot even by only the front grip. I was thinking of cutting a nice tight fitting notch in the rear of the shortened grip mount that fits on both sides of the front of trigger guard, up where it sits next to the rounded under side of the frame and welding the top part of the mount to the rounded lower half just above the trigger guard. these welds would be covered by a modified TSMG Grip. What do you folks think of this method? Am I crazy for wanting to weld it? Is there much risk of stripping out the threading of the grip bolt and the grip mount and not being able to repair? Is this a safe place to weld on the 1911 frame or do I risk the frame warping from the heat? I plan to modify a new manufactured Thompson grip mount which are fairly $$ for what they are, and want to make deliberate plans before I start cutting and welding expensive parts. Thanks for reading my post!