WWII502 Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Does anyone have any pictures, dimensions or info on WWII ammo crates for the Thompson? From what I can tell there were two types of crates, one with loose .45 ACP ball ammo, (not the 1911 ammo crate) and then one that held PRE-filled magazines. I have a reproduction loose ammo crate, I want to build and stencil a magazine crate, but I would need dimensions and pictures of the crate to make the correct stencils. Thank you all in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMGguy Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Did you google search this? I found many images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWII502 Posted February 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Did you google search this? I found many images. I did, but was unsure on the authenticity. They help for stencils, but that's about it. Relics.org sells a reproduction crate, but they admit they just made up the info and size. I set up a crate display and have around 40 (mix of original and reproduction) but I want to make sure on dimensions and whatnot before I build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk VII Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 A copy of TM 9-1990 dated September 1947 or earlier may be useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWII502 Posted February 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 A copy of TM 9-1990 dated September 1947 or earlier may be useful. Maybe that would have something in it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 I checked a 1942 edition of TM 9-1900 (Not the TM 9-1990 that Mk VII mentioned), and it only showed the M1911 marked .45 ACP crate. I don't currently have a TM 9-1990 in stock, or I'd check it out, also. The September 1947 edition of TM 9-1990 has really nice color plates in it. I have some scans from past copies that I've sold, but none for the .45 section. David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWII502 Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 I checked a 1942 edition of TM 9-1900 (Not the TM 9-1990 that Mk VII mentioned), and it only showed the M1911 marked .45 ACP crate. I don't currently have a TM 9-1990 in stock, or I'd check it out, also. The September 1947 edition of TM 9-1990 has really nice color plates in it. I have some scans from past copies that I've sold, but none for the .45 section. David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Okay, thank you... I have pics of 1911 specific crates and .45ACP only crates from WWII, but I have only heard of the Thompson specific crate so I was curious. Thank you for the info though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 I don't recall seeing a Thompson specific ammunition crate. If you find a photo, please post it. David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWII502 Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 I don't recall seeing a Thompson specific ammunition crate. If you find a photo, please post it. David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com I will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Dudley Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 crates http://www.wwiiboxes.co.uk/MARTIN.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsSgt Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 the 2 crates are from a show called boardwalk empire. i fount the pictures and had to post them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWII502 Posted March 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Those look cool.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Those look cool.... But do they have any basis in historical fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsSgt Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 I posted them it is hard to say. I have watched the show and it seems to be well done. I am trying to find out if they are accurate or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RoscoeTurner Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Does anyone have any pictures, dimensions or info on WWII ammo crates for the Thompson? From what I can tell there were two types of crates, one with loose .45 ACP ball ammo, (not the 1911 ammo crate) and then one that held PRE-filled magazines. I have a reproduction loose ammo crate, I want to build and stencil a magazine crate, but I would need dimensions and pictures of the crate to make the correct stencils. Thank you all in advance. There is no crate for loose ammunition or prefilled magazines. From 1920 - 1942 ammunition was packed in 20 round cartons of which 100 were packed in a wood crate with a metal liner for a total of 2000 rounds. In 1943 the Army switched to the more commonly known 50 round box. 12 of these were put in a sealed "Spam" can (600 rounds) with two of those then packed in a wood crate. Photos of all can be seen in Meadows' US Military Automatic Pistols 1920-1945. The arsenals did not pack ammunition in separate crates specifically designated for Thompsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWII502 Posted March 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Does anyone have any pictures, dimensions or info on WWII ammo crates for the Thompson? From what I can tell there were two types of crates, one with loose .45 ACP ball ammo, (not the 1911 ammo crate) and then one that held PRE-filled magazines. I have a reproduction loose ammo crate, I want to build and stencil a magazine crate, but I would need dimensions and pictures of the crate to make the correct stencils. Thank you all in advance. There is no crate for loose ammunition or prefilled magazines. From 1920 - 1942 ammunition was packed in 20 round cartons of which 100 were packed in a wood crate with a metal liner for a total of 2000 rounds. In 1943 the Army switched to the more commonly known 50 round box. 12 of these were put in a sealed "Spam" can (600 rounds) with two of those then packed in a wood crate. Photos of all can be seen in Meadows' US Military Automatic Pistols 1920-1945. The arsenals did not pack ammunition in separate crates specifically designated for Thompsons. I don't think those ones from boardwalk empire have any historical accuracy. By "loose" I meant packaged in the 100 round boxes. Sorry I should have specified. I consider loose rounds simply being not loaded in mags. The 1911 crates I have we're packaged that was with the metal lining. I have not seem the spam cans for .45 just for enblocs in bandoliers. I will have to ad that meadows book to my list which seems to be growing and growing. So all crates were labelled .45 for 1911? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Does anyone have any pictures, dimensions or info on WWII ammo crates for the Thompson? From what I can tell there were two types of crates, one with loose .45 ACP ball ammo, (not the 1911 ammo crate) and then one that held PRE-filled magazines. I have a reproduction loose ammo crate, I want to build and stencil a magazine crate, but I would need dimensions and pictures of the crate to make the correct stencils. Thank you all in advance. There is no crate for loose ammunition or prefilled magazines. From 1920 - 1942 ammunition was packed in 20 round cartons of which 100 were packed in a wood crate with a metal liner for a total of 2000 rounds. In 1943 the Army switched to the more commonly known 50 round box. 12 of these were put in a sealed "Spam" can (600 rounds) with two of those then packed in a wood crate. Photos of all can be seen in Meadows' US Military Automatic Pistols 1920-1945. The arsenals did not pack ammunition in separate crates specifically designated for Thompsons. I don't think those ones from boardwalk empire have any historical accuracy. By "loose" I meant packaged in the 100 round boxes. Sorry I should have specified. I consider loose rounds simply being not loaded in mags. The 1911 crates I have we're packaged that was with the metal lining. I have not seem the spam cans for .45 just for enblocs in bandoliers. I will have to ad that meadows book to my list which seems to be growing and growing. So all crates were labelled .45 for 1911? Ammunition was not labeled for the firearm, it was labeled for type ammunition. In this case M1911 is the cartridge not the pistol, same as Cal 30 M2 is not for a M2 carbine. The US military did not use 100 round boxes for 45 cal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWII502 Posted March 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Thank you... Once again typo it should have been 100 20 round boxes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsSgt Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Does anyone have a National Stock Number for the thompson shipping crate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk VII Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 We should tell Boardwalk Empire to get themselves some decent forward grips, not those awful flat-sided GPC ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Does anyone have a National Stock Number for the thompson shipping crate? Do you think there was a specific crate beyond the one that the Thompsons were shipped from the factory in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsSgt Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Yes I do they ether held 10 or 15 thompsons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsSgt Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I have a contact in the army Who is a crate maker. If this works out I will have the military crate for the thompsons plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piep Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Love to see them when you do.It's on my build list.Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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