bob241 Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Seller advises:Thompson appears unfired, also says the Mfg of this Thompson is Harrington and Richardson on the form# 3. Starting bid $19,500.00 # 485434012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThompsonCrazy Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=485434012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSU Tiger Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 It's definitely been fired. The finish is worn from the travel of the chargeing handle/ actuator and on other high points. It appears to be a correct late production M1 to my inexperienced eyes. I'm lusting after it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thompsonlover Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 "Harrington and Richardson" Who is that? What time period was the gun put together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azboater Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 I thought Harrington & Richardson only produced the Reising M50 & the M1 Garand in WWII what did they have to do with any WWII Thompson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1930sRust Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Did Harrington & Richardson ever REWAT guns? I don't remember how that all works, but isn't that considered manufacturing? Also, how is it anyone could consider a WWII model Thompson to be unfired? Still, nice gun. I like the non-crossbolt stock and matching upper and lower. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK2112 Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 H@R thompson.........???????THIS THING IS ONE OF A KIND THEN...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda4 Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 I remember the scam going on where they changed one item on the form 4 each transfer... eventually a Thompson looking gun was called a Sten... beware. This one needs research! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) "Harrington and Richardson" Who is that? What time period was the gun put together? Harrington and Richardson is a commercial gunmaker that made some military firearms also. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%26R_Firearms During WWII they made Reising machine guns. They made excellent quality Garand rifles after WWII, but not during WWII. They never made Thompsons Edited May 26, 2015 by buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 I just looked at the seller's other auctions, he has some really super duper hardware for sale pretty impressive class 3 items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thompsonlover Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 I emailed him earlier asking a bunch of questions about it. Haven't heard back yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Enlarging the blur, it looks like an S where the S would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 there's something there but it's hard to see if it's an S or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etest1971 Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 I find it strange it has a M1A1 grip mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUTTERRATT Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 I just looked at the seller's other auctions, he has some really super duper hardware for sale pretty impressive class 3 itemsHe has some beautiful Colt M16 variants... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSU Tiger Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 I find it strange it has a M1A1 grip mount.I'll bet it's gone through at least one rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) The seller emailed me a picture the gun has a S on the bottom of the receiver in the usual spot, that means it was made by savage if this gun is not a reweld or rewat, it looks like it would be an excellent buy for somebody I already have one so I'll not be buying it Edited May 26, 2015 by buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 The gun came out of the H&R auction in the 80's. Somehow the name got on the F3. It's a museum gun and if I were looking for one, that would be it. I've shot with this guy a few times and everything I've seen of his is +++A1+++. He is also a great guy. Since I'm not looking I won't go look. Bob D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thompsonlover Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Spoke with the owner and he thought the gun receiver and parts were bought post war and put together by H & .R. He didn't see any military markings such as a P proof mark on the barrel. Here are some more pics he sent: Can anyone ID the markings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) what H&R auction would that be? can you provide any details? Edited May 26, 2015 by buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thompsonlover Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) Found this on line (wish I had a book) Bottom pic stamping looks like GEG -All Savage M1 and M1A1 submachine gun receivers and frames were also marked with the encircled GEG acceptance stamp of Auto-Ordnance’s civilian inspector George E. Goll. Buzz you were right a Savage gun. Edited May 27, 2015 by Thompsonlover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thompsonlover Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) what H&R auction would that be? can you provide any details?Bankruptcy auction?? I think they went out of business in 86 Buzz, would a savage receiver say Bridgeport Conn? Edited May 26, 2015 by Thompsonlover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 as far as I know the difference between savage and Bridgeport M1 type guns is the S on the bottom of the receiver the other posters can provide a lot more information about the minutiae of these guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thompsonlover Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 as far as I know the difference between savage and Bridgeport M1 type guns is the S on the bottom of the receiver the other posters can provide a lot more information about the minutiae of these gunsFound this online - Savage made the majority of M1's. Early Savage's had the New York address on the receiver after 80K the Bridgeport address was used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renderman Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) savage M1's and M1A1's have the "Full Auto" phrase on 2 lines...whereas, the Bridgeport guns have it on a single line. that's the quickest way to tell on the frame. on the receiver the quick way to tell is by the inspector...GHD inspected bridgport M1A1 factory guns, where as RLB then FJA inspected the M1/M1A1 savage guns. i'm not exactly sure when the inspector's changed over from RLB to FJA, my gun is 78,7xx and is FJA inspected. if I remember correctly all the M1's where made by savage. as the Bridgeport made guns had trouble passing the cycle rate test in the M1 timeframe...or at least, the inspector was pickier on cycle rate. by the time Bridgeport guns where passing inspection, the M1A1 alteration was in effect and the Bridgeport made guns where update with the A1 updates. this may make it sound like I know what i'm talking about...but in reality, I read this in Frank's book. hopefully I am remembering correctly. Edited May 26, 2015 by renderman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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