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Thanks Bob. I will try that then. I'm decent with my mill, but not good enough to try this then.

I think I'm going to mill mine out as well. Did you ever find anything?

Hey guys, did a search didn't come up with any hits. Where are you guys putting your SBR markings for the semi's at? Anyone find a spot that looks nice on the weapon? I'm just finishing up my west hurly semi build and I sent in the paperwork for the SBR. I figured I might as well put the markings on it before I black oxide it. It's a west hurley 27a1 receiver on a 28a1 WWII frame with a horizontal grip and soon to be 10.5 WWII barrel with comp. I would like to put it somewhere where it won't be too fugly. Thanks in advance guys.

I had a quote several years back to refinish a 1915 Colt 1911. It was $1500 and took 6 months at least. I politely declined. Especially since at the time Bill Adair was doing it for like $300-$400. Unfortunatly Bill is gone now so I believe Ron's is the only one doing the Carbonia Blue that I know of. But still way too expensive in my opinion.

I remember seeing some M1 and M1a1 kits. But they were like $999 or something close to that. Which was too high. I saw some 28 cut receivers, but didn't really see any 28 parts kits. Gunbroker usually has them for around the $700-$800 range. I know I sold one here a month ago with a finned barrel and all Russian NOS condition. I think it fetched $775.

That is exactly what I needed. Thanks Joe!

I tried doing a search, but didn't come up with anything. Anyone have any plans on how to do the bolt hold open mod using the full auto rocker switch? I got done today fitting a 28a1 lower to my west hurley receiver. Now I'm looking at the full auto swtich and trying to figure out how to link that up with the pawl. Thanks in advance guys!

Ask and ye shall receive. Here is a list of 1911's and 1903's. I got this from John Hollobrook if you know who he is. Great Guy. http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt293/cplnorton2/nicaragua.jpg

Hey this site has given a lot to me, I thought I might give some back. I don't know if you guys have seen this or not, but this is a serial number list of 78 thompsons used in Nicaragua. Does anyone have one off this list? http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt293/cplnorton2/thompson.jpg

Yeah I've been throwing it around. It's just anyone's guess on whether it's real or not. I think I will just hang on it and maybe someday another one will pop up somewhere or maye a picture will show up. It's hard telling. Do you think the heatshield is legit USGI though?

I found out it's a 1200. I was wrong as usual.

Might have found one. Is this an 870 or winchester 1200. I can never tell. http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt293/cplnorton2/870trench.jpg

Yeah there would be some real money in it if some machinist wanted to do it on the side. To bad I'm horrible with a mill. lol

Try this link. I took a bunch more pics this morning out in the sunlight to try to get you a better pictures of everything. 870 pics The US was definelty hand stamped. But one interesting note. I called remington again today. The shotgun dates to the early 70's. And I found it was blued when it was sold new. So it has been refinished. I hadn't thought it was, but it sure has been. After thinking about it, I got a magnifying glass out and examined the US stamp. It was stamped and then sandblasted and then parked over. It was struck before refinishing. I also pulled the heat guard off again examined where the bead sight was, and the slots cut under the barrel for the shroud to fit. They too were done before it was refinished. As you can see evidence of sandblasting on both. Now looking at the finish, it can't be anything recent. And I don't think back then Bubba would have been good enough to fake it. Maybe today, but you can tell by handling this, it wasn't made recently. The park is old. You can always tell new park compared to old park. And that trench shield was put on by someone who knew what they were doing. And looks like they had done it many times before, because they didn't make one mistake. I just don't think Bubba would have taken the time to make this. And back then if Bubba wanted a trench gun, he could have probably bought one cheaper through the old DCM or gunshows then he could of got a new Wingmaster, heat shield, and then faked the stamps, and reparked it. It just wouldn't have made sense back then to make one likethis. At least to me it doesn't. Back then trench guns weren't valuable as they are now. And on the old jouster forum, a guy chimed in he had a 870 just like this many years ago. It had an 18'' barrel just like mine. And it had an ithaca trench gun heatshield attached to it. And I think my heatshield is an Ithaca as well. He said the guy he got it from attained it from military channels and that it was a navy seal gun. Hard telling on the seal connection. But I just think there is something to this 870. From what I researched, in Vietnam the military bought a lot of commercial shotguns and put them into service. One being the 870. As there are many accounts of 870's being used in the military by veterans. But no real huge military orders were place for 870's, until later on when the Marines ordered the Mark 1. So most say the 870's over there were commercial made guns without ordnance markings. With mine, maybe some young armorer thought it looked naked compared to a Winchester M12 or 1897 and tried to put a US stamp on the side. Hard telling where that came from. But I know when I worked in the Armory I hand stamped some weapons. So anything is possible I guess. Let me know what you guys think. Originally, I thought this was fake, but the more I research it and examine it, I really think this one might be genuine military used shotgun. And on selling it, I've kinda got fond of it the past couple days. As it looks nice in my safe next to my WWII model 12 trench. It I decide to sell it I will let you have first dibs at it though.

And to add to the mystery. I just found what looks like a civie Ithaca with the same markings on a trench gun adaptor at a rock island auction. It says it was made for US army special forces. Theirs looks like it has stampings on the stock too. But my stocks are missing so I don't know if mine had any or not. Here is a link to the auction. http://rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/50/lid/1550