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Mark,You are correct, but there are obvious differences between the Colt and 1928 buttplate. The stamped buttplate door does not have the protrusion in the back plate like the milled does. The Colt plates have the serial # inside and the "R" for Remington stamped inside. The colt butt plate protrusion pin is rounded where the military milled plate the pin is flat looking and ground flush. I will post a picture of a colt butt plate when I get home, that I received from a board member helping me out.

I will take it off and take pictures when I get home today. We hour our sons Webelos Pine wood derby today. No problem to do for you.

I thought I would post pictures of my 1928A1, ending late type of production model, Display/Replica/Dummy Thompson, that I finished. The stock has a late production stamped buttplate. It has a real 1914 No-Buckl sling. It's a aluminum display receiver. All the stock set is mint GI with original finish and markings. The front horizontal grip is marked "S" and the Lower receiver grip is marked "S" both being "Savage". The late cross bolt generation stock is stamped "M" on the back. The rear "L" sight is a reproduction "L". I want to get a real "L" Lyman sight, the Lyman with the LYMAN name and address on it and replace the repo on it. If anyone has one you want to get rid of PM please. I would like to get the Cutts Comp drilled and pinned for a more correct look. A good friend I met on the forum is going to help me out with it. Enjoy your Sunday!

Yes the Kit does. I think you can find just as good as kit and get a lower price if you watch gun broker for one.

All, Thought I would forward a great deal this weekend only at International Military Antiques "IMA": IMA is selling their Aluminum M1A1 Display Receiver for $99.95 this weekend only. Normal prices is $184.95 http://www.ima-usa.com IMA gives 5% off prices on their website for first time buyers who sign up for their email. Also if you buying something else check, just get the order over $100 you get FREE SHIPPING.... This is a great deal for anyone that was thinking about putting a Display/Replica/Dummy Thompson M1A1 together. Have a good weekend.

Somebody already "bought it now" yesterday, after you posted. I would of liked to had the copy, but I am going to wait for American Thunder III. It was pricey, but someone really wanted it.

I am getting ready to put together a replica/dummy display gun 1928A1 early type, with the original Lyman flip up sight, finned barrel, no cross bolt stock, with milled buttplate. I am in need a of an original GI Finned 1928A1 barrel that is "P" marked and was used. I was looking for someone's worn out barrel or worn bluing barrel that I could purchase to keep the cost down on the display 1928A1 I'm building. If you have a 1928 GI old finned barrel and your looking to get rid of it please PM me. Thank you for any help.

Chuck, As we talked about, I am planning on attending the "All Thompson Show and Shoot" with you. It sounds like a great experience. Who else out there is planning on attending? Keith

Joseph, Great pic of the side by side comparison. A picture is worth a thousand words. Thank you for sharing and all on the info.

Very interesting and great relic to preserve. Thank you for sharing. Do you have a picture of inside of the ammo chest?

Darryl, I should of elaborated more on the subject. Darryl I agree that a commercial Colt 1921 is more rare, worth more, and probably in a large amount of cases more desirable than the 1928 Navy overstamp. My point I was trying to get across is the Colt Navy over stamp is a Colt Thompson though and is much more rare that the other military 1928 models and is very desirable. A navy colt overstamp would be an awesome part of the Colt Thompson collection. I wish I could have either :-).

Mark 2112, I agree with you, it's still the real deal. It's a Colt. It started out as a 1921, then received the "8" overstamp over the "1" and they changed the bolt internals from a Colt 1921 to a 1928 to slow down the cyclic rate. There is a lot of history with them. Definitely a Navy Overstamp is much more rare to find than other 1928s.

Thompsonlover, Very nice historic picture. Thanks for sharing! Kiroy, Thank you for the info. Sounds like we don't have much longer than for the new American Thunder.

Does anyone know when American Thunder III book is due for completion? Does anyone know what new topics will be American Thunder III that aren't in I and II? Does anyone know what the price will be for the American Thunder III book when it hits the shelves? Does anyone have an American Thunder or American Thunder II book they would like to get rid of? I only have the Ultimate Thompson book, which is very good, but I was told the American Thunder series is very in-depth on the Military Thompson 1928 and M1 series.

Great Pictures. I at first didn't like barrel bands, but now I like the look and also put the one on my M1A1 replica. I am wondering about the pictures, do you have two different Dewats Thompsons? The first few pictures show a Non-cross bolt stock (old style) Thompson M1A1, then the other pictures show the Dewat Thompson with a later style "Cross bolt" stock? Did you take the pictures at different times and switch the stocks?

Gutterratt, You are correct, that replica/dummy receiver was yours I purchased from you. Worked out very well, thank you again for offering it to me! I am working on a 1928A1 replica build now with a aluminum/dummy receiver. Thank you for the kind words. If you have a worn out 1928 finned barrel let me know, I am going to need one for the replica build!

Yes Thompsonbarrels.com has some great machined green mountain barrels he starts from. That would be a good place to get it and reasonable cost. I'm sure that's where you purchased the stand from.

My detailed cold bluing with Birchwood Casey listed above worked very well for me on the lower I sent you pictures of. I spent hours on it as described and it came out as a great result. Heating the metal, as basically hot bluing it, would help.

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Mark, It looks awesome and it looks great the way it is, but for the more detailed correct look, I suggest the following. A few recommendations I would suggest, when you have time and the cash (lowest cost alternatives to Colt parts and would make your Colt replica more correct): 1) It would be nice if you could find one of the gentleman on the forum that can weld up the hole in the magazine catch and remake the checkering to match the rest of the checkering on the magazine catch. That would make it look authentic to a colt mag catch. 2) Your pivot selector and safety are awesome and more difficult to find, I wish I had them, but they are correct for the early manufactured 1928 Model Savage. Your pivot selector and safety have the "reverse" checkering and are worth you selling or keeping for an early model 1928 Model Savage build. I would suggest you find of the gentleman on the forums that take the latest generation, paddle style, GI pivot selector and safety, and they add the hole in the safety selector and make the checkering on the pivot selector and the safety look the same as the magazine catch with the knurled checkering that is like the Colt models. 3) Your Savage 1928 Finned barrel does not have the milled down fins to match a colt barrel. You could sell that barrel and find a replica colt barrel with the correct fins and find the early style colt compensator or an earlier Cutts generation compensator to put on it or have that barrel fins milled down and re-blue. I have a very old, authentic looking Colt 1921 fined barrel and first generation compensator, that are reproduction, probably used on a blank firing gun in the movies. I may sell it or keep it for a future Colt replica. If your maybe interested in it for your Colt replica PM me and I'll send you pictures. 4) I would find a Thompson stock that does not have the sling swivel in the stock. Early 1928 Stocks did not have swivels, most were later modified for the swivel. A early 1928 stock without the swivel would be a low cost alternative for you. Also then you could re-sand down all the stocks and get the military red stain from Brownells: Made by Air Art Aviation, Formula VII stain for $21.99. Use that red stain on all the stocks to get the matching colors of all, then use the linseed oil. (I remember you saying you really like that deep red stain look, as do I). I really like the ejector you have on it for the correct look. Great job. Thank you for sharing.

Current Savage Thompson M1A1 replica pictures attached below. Oil all cleaned off. I used flat black paint and alcohol to clean all the white off the lettering of receiver and to get the upper to match the lower as shown in the pictures. I added a barrel band, that a good friend gave to me. The barrel band was in the white also when I received it, so I blued it, as shown in the photos. In these pictures the "CC" rocker pivot selector I had was replaced with actual Savage "S" marked rocker pivot selector. Also the magazine catch that was marked "B" I removed and put on a "S" Savage magazine catch, that I cleaned, prepped and blued. I think you can really see the difference in these photos. Let me know what you think of the attached pictures/project. Still missing "S" Disconnector, "S" marked M1A1 bolt for display, and the front sight pin. Any help greatly appreciated. I just added the GI original WWII M3 Kerr Sling, but it's not in the pictures. Have a great weekend guys!

Replica build of Thompson M1A1 “Savage”: Final (current stage of) build pictures I will post tonight. The current state pictures of the replica build are so much better, so please give yourself a chance to see them. I had them posted previsouly, but I don’t have access now to them. All parts that were used are proper for a M1A1 “Savage” New York Plant build: Savage/Stevens marked, except I am still short the Savage “S” marked Disconnector. I have an AOC marked disconnnector until I can get a Savage one. I am also short the Front Sight Pin. If anyone can help me out on a Savage “S” marked Disconnector and/or a front sight pin, and I want a “S” Savage Marked M1A1 bolt to display with it. Please PM me. (Picture details below. Try to work from the bottom up on the pictures; the program did not put the pictures in order) The first 4 Pictures are of the Dummy/replica receiver at it’s base level look, when I purchased it (Thank you Gutteratt for the purchase). Replica Receiver is aluminum and press type for barrel install. Receiver is marked proper like a “Savage” with US on one line, then Property on second line on the top back of receiver behind rear sight. The next 3 pictures are of the Savage M1A1 lower receiver (final product) after it was prepped, cold blued, and whitened all the lettering to have the details stand out. When I purchased the Savage lower it was in the white/bare metal. The next 5 pictures display the Replica Upper Receiver modified with installed “Savage” GI rear sight (non-marked), from a M1A1Savage demil portion of the rear receiver, Savage bolt handle, Whitened lettering on all markings. I then added a real GI Demilled bolt portion and GI full extractor into the receiver to give it a more authentic/realisitic look. In the 6th picture you see the side of the receiver where I drilled tapped a real extractor in the recevier to give it a more authenic look. I may add in the future a Thompson M1A1 buffer pilot, “S” marked on the rear; I would have to drill thru the back of the receiver to get it installed. Would be difficult now since the barrel is installed. The next 9 pictures are the Replica Savage M1A1 together on the display stand. These are not the best pictures, because I used a flash and I had too much oil all over the replica. Since these pictures, I put in a different/proper “S” marked and blued magazine catch and a “S” marked Rocker Pivot Selector. I also cleaned off all the oil and re-cleaned all the whitened lettering and the pictures that I post tonight look much better. I also have a proper No-buckl Kerr sling for it. All Stocks were from WWII De-mil Thompson, rear stock has a milled butt plate. Front handguard has actual piece of Shrapnel in the right side of the wood in the center. You can see the wood has seen a large amount of use, but has the authentic look. The wood was terrible looking with Kosmoline all over them all when I got them. I cleaned and stained as shown. Also, I have since added a barrel band to the handguard, since I have the rivet style front grip mount. In these pictures the magazine catch installed was not a proper "S" marked and catch was a parkarized new catch I had. I have since added a "S" marked and blued proper magazine catch and the magazine catch matches and looks much better. The next 6 pictures display the completed upper receiver, when I put it all together and then I added extractor in the side of the receiver: I used a vice to install the barrel and I was able to basically “tap” the threads of the barrel into the aluminum receiver. I was able to get the barrel to line up correctly with the markings on top. You see that the grip mount is GI, Stevens proper, late rivet style with whitened marking. The front sight is Savage marked “S”. The Barrel is real GI, WWII use, still serviceable. The barrel was in the white when I got it. The barrel has some pitting in bore, it definitley seen it’s combat use. The barrel is “S” marked proper and “P” proof marked; I whitened the lettering to bring out the details. I cold blued the barrel and the results were great. I will post the latest pictures tonight. The latest pictures are so much better with the flash off and with all the oil cleaned off of the replica. I also re-cleaned the upper receiver and whitened markings. The lower and upper receiver afterwards match in color now. I used some flat black paint also during the upper receiver marking cleaning and used alcohol after on all of it to clean the paint off and the white of the letters; this helped to match the color of the replica aluminum upper and blued lower.

Sorry gentlemen for not getting back sooner. I'm just on a quick lunch and I thought I would finally check the website and current events. I understand all points of view. Thank you all that have commented. I also agree it is sometimes difficult to read into someone's comments. Also though, sometimes on the board, I believe some comments maybe should be thought out before posting. Not to offend anyone's specific religious preference, but I have a quote from the Bible, New Testament, KJV, that I believe we can all learn and benefit from: Matthew 7:12 - Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. The World English Bible translates the passage as: Therefore whatever you desire for men to do to you, you shall also do to them; for this is the law and the prophets. (AKA: The Golden Rule) I truly want everyone to understand I totally get and respect constructive criticism and "attention to detail" is a must when it comes to all things Thompson :-). Great posts and a great forum; I will put back up the pictures tonight, when I get home. Thank you.

mnshooter, All removed, just for you. I asked for input "on the project", not your opinion of do you think that Thompson replica builds should be in this forum. I suggest you search the forum for other replica threads; there are plenty of replica builds and information contained herein. For the record, the entire Savage M1A1 Replica project was all authentic Savage/Stevens Thompson SMG parts, except the Aluminum legal replica/dummy receiver. Everything is real Thompson, except for that darned old "receiver", that many of us in United States cannot own... Many of us who enjoy the thompson history and military history of this famous firearm live in a state that does not allow NFA firearms... For many of us the only way to have a piece of Thompson firearm history is to build a replica with all "real" Thompson parts, except for the receiver. We can still marvel at the replica, the process, the pieces, the history, the work, the time in research, etc. I hope in the future you will become more appreciative of the input/work of thompson history other individuals try to input into this site, even though that input/work may only be a custom replica.

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