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OCM, As I look at the Load X catalog on-line, I notice the price for .351 of $41 is for 20rnds, not 50.

Got the opportunity to try a full-auto 1911 a couple of years ago at Big Sandy (post sample I think) --I couldn't get it to cycle more than one round, although the owner could dump mag after mag. I tried every hold I could think of; one hand, two hands too tight, too loose, nothing seemed to work. But in his hands, it ran like a top.

OCM--tell me about the Gun Hunter group? I gather its mission is to track down the whereabouts of historically significant crime weapons? (Sounds like the results w/ photos would make a great reference book) (StooperZero--sorry to hijack the thread--mods please move/edit as appropriate.)

OCM, Tom did a very nice job on the metal forearm on his replicas--professional looking in fit and finish.. . I can't imagine the originals were any nicer. A trip to Tucson is on my list to see the original Lebman '07 there. I have wondered if there are any FA 1907's in the registry. . .

The Lebman conversion 1907's have been discussed a couple of times on this forum--members mostly either dig them or think they are an abomination with the Thompson grip. It took me about 5 min. to make up my mind when I saw one of the first ones Tom built on G-B. Mine came supplied with an aftermarket 10 rnd. mag which I ditched in favor of several originals; other than that, it's great. Always draws much interest and many questions at the range. I have had several correspondences with Tom (the gunsmith who makes these) and he is a great guy to deal with. I also purchased a 20 ga. Remington 11 whippet conversion for my wife from him--another fun gun for sure! I buy old factory ammo. at my local shows from the ammo vendors who have been schlepping the same box or 2 of .351 to shows for years. They usually come down to a reasonable price as soon as I show any serious interest. I've fired several hundred rounds of factory Remington and Winchester with no problems whatsoever. I'll reload a run of .351 when I get more brass saved up.

I have a Wilson--it was my first sub gun and a great entry into the C-3 world. It runs great on Winchester white box, and now our own reloads. Replaced the recoil and buffer springs with Wolff, and have had to replace a couple of sections of the telescoping recoil tube assembly, and an extractor over the years and thousands of rounds of use. I now keep several spares of each in stock and ready to go. On any of them keep in mind you're dealing with 65+ year-old mass-produced parts, made under wartime conditions that were never designed to last this long. So expect that whatever you buy will need work -right out of the box and/or from time to time. . . they have already gone way past what they were intended to do.

Thanks again wwl, So now I'm on the hunt for the factory ad you've got and an original Model 17 pistol grip!

Thanks wwl, I would love to find a copy of the factory ad you show. Does it list a "standard" barrel length for the short Police model? Some sources I've seen say14" and some say 15" ("Fighting Shotguns"). I imagine a pd could have ordered about any length barrel they wanted back to the mag. tube support with no problem. (Didn't mean to hi-jack the thread OP) thanks, John

I agree with David-- wwl, please post a couple of pictures of your Model 17.

Regarding the furniture, you might want to consider hedging your bet--buy a new-old-stock GI set and finish it to your liking, and keep the original as-is. I did this with a police-trade in M1A1 -- the department had coated the furniture with thick coat of clear poly; but, that was the way it served some of its life anyway, and I wanted to preserve the department property markings. The new GI wood looks great, and I have the original as well.

Your range of $600-800 is accurate as far as what I am seeing at gun shows in my area for the Rem. 8 and the '07. Actually I see both fairly often out here--not many buyers for either so there's usually room for price negotiation$. Then there's always those $1500-2500 ones you see over and over and over. . . I'm holding out for a Police Special Remington, but have a couple of '07s. I would opt for a later manufacture date 07 for a good shooter--I have seen some very nice late ones with the police-style stocks-- Best of luck in your search--

Like Flipseat, I have never noticed any muzzle/port blast with my M1A1. I do get a fair amount with shoulder-stocked Buntlines--especially if the cylinder/barrel gap has opened up a bit...

TSMGguy, In your Vector Arms High Power example, I am curious by what justification is it allowable to attach a stock (reproduction or original) to a High Power not specifcally mentioned in the C&R list? thanks

It is my understanding that for a time manufacturers were allowed to place their name and address marking out of sight on the exterior of the receiver, yet accessable. I have an MP-40 tube gun with the manufacturers information marked on the underside of the tube, and only visible when field-stripped. Still easily accessable. . . but under a sight, I dunno. . .

Of your choices, I can only speak to the Lanchester-- they are heavy, steady, well made pieces with a slow rate of fire and accurate. Expendable parts are available on G-B on a fairly regular basis. Uses Sten mags as well as the original 50rnds. I prefer the balance with the Sten mag. over the original 50rnd.

Thanks David, I'll start looking for that manual as well-- I appreciate your efforts! John

Thanks for the photo David. . . your cradle does not look like the Bell unit I saw and referenced in my earlier post. Again, I don't have a frame of reference to really know what I'm looking for, but the one I saw looked very much like the one in reference photo in my second post. Thanks, for the help, I appreciate it. John

Thanks David, I appreciate the quick response. I'm not all together sure the photo I attached as a reference in my original post has the "correct" cradle assembly. This past weekend I had the opportunity to look over a .30 anm2 cradle assembly manufactured by Bell, data plate stamped "type G-16 Assy #GM 749-658" While it closely resembled the one in the color photo attached in this post-- these are the only photo references I've been able to find, so I don't really know what I'm looking at and looking for. I'm hoping there is a government reference manual somewhere to give me an idea of what I need to put one back together. Apparently a supplemental receiver section was attached to the standard M11 receiver to adapt it to the cradle. I'm hoping somebody here will be able to elaborate. . . thanks John

I'm looking for sources of information and the conversion parts for a Remington Model 11 as used in the training of aerial gunners during WW2--especially the mounting and adaptor parts needed for use with an anm2-style cradle and twin spade grips assembly. Interested in manuals, parts, etc. any help would be appreciated!

Truely good internet deals can still be had, but you will need to be ready to move when the right gun comes along. I bought an M1A1 last year from a police supply company that had taken 2 in on trade, and advertised them on Sturm. The asking price was less than a West Hurley, so I immediately called. The dealer was very polite and emailed pictures as soon as we hung up. By the time I called him back, (less than 45 min. after our first conversation) one was already sold (it had a very low serial #) and I took the other, figuring although the price was almost too good to be true, whatever showed up would be a good start to a decent shooter. What arrived was better than the dealer had described (he didn't have a great knowledge of Thompsons, although very nice in attempting to answer my questions) I got a fully numbers matching Savage, all correct parts for mid-production serial number range in excellent condition, all internals Savage marked--a beautiful piece. Only wear evident was to the stocks; years of handling dings and a thick coat of varnish or polyeurathane-- it still had the PD property plaque on the butt stock. So, my advise would echo those here-- know your stuff, have patience and be ready to move when the right one comes along-- good luck, John

Please add me to the list as well. thanks, John