Chopper28 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 I have a "L" series gun put together by Andrewski and sold thru Recon Ordnance. The welds were dressed when assembled and it is a most excellent gun. Very smooth shooting and 100% reliable. One of my favorite weapons. I traded a Vector Uzi and 1K cash for it many years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 I too own "L" series Recon Ordnance/Andrewski builds and both (one is a Port Said kit build, the other is a Swedish K kit build) are very nicely done, excellent quality and super shooters. As I noted before and earlier, it would be best to stay away from "M" series tube guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkg3k Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 54 minutes ago, Rekraps said: I too own "L" series Recon Ordnance/Andrewski builds and both (one is a Port Said kit build, the other is a Swedish K kit build) are very nicely done, excellent quality and super shooters. As I noted before and earlier, it would be best to stay away from "M" series tube guns. Please elaborate...I (and I'm sure others) would like to know the foundation of this. I've been around long enough and seen it play out several times...when someone points out an issue (good or bad) but won't provide explanation, it's typically hype or someone trying to pump their gun for an ad that's about to be created. Are we about to see "K" ads now that laud the superiority of the "L" tube? On 10/10/2022 at 10:27 AM, JJX said: I never heard of a bad batch of Wilson tubes. I have seen “L” and “MB” prefixes that worked perfectly. I was told they were from different runs with slightly different construction. I know that some started out as a straight tube and then had the side rails welded on and the welds are very obvious. Others might have been shaped from one piece or the welds were cleaned up to make it look like one piece. Neither had I. I had a Wilson "MB" prefix tube gun that came out of the Stembridge collection long ago. It was always perfect with sticks, coffins or drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 No such thing as a bad tube, just bad builds. There are guys with skills that can make an M2HB out of a pile of paperclips given the right equipment and time. Then there are guys that can take a NIB M2HB and twist it into a pretzel in the course of a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 20 hours ago, hkg3k said: Please elaborate...I (and I'm sure others) would like to know the foundation of this. I've been around long enough and seen it play out several times...when someone points out an issue (good or bad) but won't provide explanation, it's typically hype or someone trying to pump their gun for an ad that's about to be created. Are we about to see "K" ads now that laud the superiority of the "L" tube? Neither had I. I had a Wilson "MB" prefix tube gun that came out of the Stembridge collection long ago. It was always perfect with sticks, coffins or drums. Not pumping my guns for an ad. Not selling at all. You may want to consider that in addition to how a unit looks optically, there is the underlying metallurgy related to the material used to form/fabricate the tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkg3k Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 33 minutes ago, Rekraps said: You may want to consider that in addition to how a unit looks optically, there is the underlying metallurgy related to the material used to form/fabricate the tubes. Specifics? As it pertains to "MB" prefix Wilson "K" tubes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azboater Posted November 4, 2022 Report Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) Interesting topic in this thread on Swedish K tube gun prices while I agree some are overpriced ( at the moment) I would even use the term Insane as Got Uzi mentions But………. when I bought my Wilson L tube Swedish K NFA item I was told by a multitude of people I was paying too much at……….12k and maybe I was at the Time but my Mantra on a gun I want is “ I didn’t pay too much, I just bought early” there is not a gun I bought from Ruben that I paid a premium for that has not passed that Initial purchase price in time. Edited November 4, 2022 by azboater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/4/2022 at 3:59 PM, azboater said: Interesting topic in this thread on Swedish K tube gun prices while I agree some are overpriced ( at the moment) I would even use the term Insane as Got Uzi mentions But………. when I bought my Wilson L tube Swedish K NFA item I was told by a multitude of people I was paying too much at……….12k and maybe I was at the Time but my Mantra on a gun I want is “ I didn’t pay too much, I just bought early” there is not a gun I bought from Ruben that I paid a premium for that has not passed that Initial purchase price in time. Agree. And... there are very few "K" that ever come to market. If i did not already own two, I'd get it. Very good guns, run super well and look awesome. I've bought twice from Ruben and have had the same experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 One of the great things about meeting people in this business and being on the Forum is the ability to ask questions, gather data and if appropriate, offer advice. Another is admitting if you made a mistake and correcting that mistake. Yesterday I spoke with John Andrewski, whom we all acknowledge (along with his now deceased Father) as experts in the MG world. John and his father assembled ALL of the "L" series and "MB" series Swedisk K's and so, as an owner of two of the "L" series I asked him about the "MB" series and my concern about the quality of the tube. His response was that the "L"'s and the "MB"s, while using different types of tube assemblies were both quality guns (structurally), but the "MB" guns did not have as nice of an appearance due to the Wilson stamping (poor) and some weld beads. So, I retract my earlier concerns and statements about the "MB" series. John knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJX Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 Thank you for the clarification. Does anyone know how many were built? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 10 hours ago, JJX said: Thank you for the clarification. Does anyone know how many were built? I know for a fact that 200 of the "L" series were made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 On 12/8/2022 at 8:28 AM, JJX said: Thank you for the clarification. Does anyone know how many were built? I heard 200 of those also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPinFL Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 Do your numbers include the Wilson built guns? They have an L prefix in the serial numbers. How about the Pearl built guns? They look exceptional to me, with a bent trigger frame, No weld beads! BP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 12/12/2022 at 6:57 AM, BPinFL said: Do your numbers include the Wilson built guns? They have an L prefix in the serial numbers. How about the Pearl built guns? They look exceptional to me, with a bent trigger frame, No weld beads! BP The "L" series are all Wilson tubes built by Andrewski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 What is interesting about the "L" series is that a most are Port Said kits, but.... a few and just a few original Swedish K kits snuck in the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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