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I have a brand new 1927A1 Kahr/Thompson. Today I took it out to clean it and noticed that when I try to cock it it DOESN'T cock. I thought maybe I wasn't pulling the cocking lever back far enough so I got out a rag and pulled it all the way back till it wouldn't go any further and then let it slide forward. Still wouldn't cock. I tried to take it apart to see what's going on inside, but when I push in the takedown button and try and slide the lower receiver from the upper, it only slides back an inch or so under HEAVY spring tension to the point where it won't seperate any further. Then the lower slams forward.

 

I called Kahr and left a message with them but no call back yet. I thought Kahr had imprioved the quality control of Auto Ordnance when they took it over. This is pretty disappointing after spending over a grand to buy this thing and I can't even shoot it. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif

 

Dep

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QUOTE (reconbob @ May 24 2006, 10:22 PM)
Don't laugh but there may be a part loose inside there from
a faulty attempt to disassemble the gun, and its blocking the movement
of the bolt, or the firing pin may have broken having the same effect...

Bob

You may be right. But I never disassembled the gun prior to first attempt yesterday. And I didn't try cocking it until yesterday either. The op rod goes all the way back as far as it can go but it just doesn't cock. I think they should rename this hunk of garbage 1927A1 boat anchor. That's all it's good for. I tried calling Kahr, but the service rep must be flooded with calls. All I ever get is an answering machine. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif

 

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QUOTE (PhilOhio @ May 25 2006, 11:05 AM)

Do you suppose the children of some of those GM people went to work at Kahr Arms, for the Moonies? It would make sense. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

That'd actually be a pretty funny betting board - *who* exactly works at Kahr?

 

My vote is for Zombies, like in "Dawn of the Dead".

 

"Braaaaains"

 

 

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My guess...

 

It was cocked with the safety on and the firing pin dropped down into the cavity that was created and bound against the rear most lip of the sear where it does not belong. This will cause the frame to be under serious tension when you try to remove it. You cannot cock it because your firing pin is already in the cocked position and beyond. Sometimes by pulling back on the cocking knob and working the trigger a bit at the same time you can get the sear to disengage and "fire". (helps with two people) If not it will need to be sent in...they can be a real hassle to get apart sometimes. This can dammage your firing pin and sear...this is even noted in the owners manual. Not a warranty issue for sure. Hope this helps.

 

 

Damon

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Thanks Damon and Consult. I'll try that trick of pulling back the cocking knob and fiddling with the trigger. Also will call their regular number and see if I can contact someone. I appreciate the advice!!!! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/smile.gif

 

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Whatever you do, do not take the pivot plate off with the frame still on the reciever. Because that's what it sounds like to me, - either a broken firing pin or the loose parts jamming up after taking the pivot plate off. You are going to have to release that firing pin somehow or you will never get it apart.

 

Well, you might get it apart with considerable damage being done to it...

 

If you are not familiar with gunsmithing work I highly reccomend letting the moonies attempt to fix it, or better yet,-take it to someone who knows how to work on 'em. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

 

I hope you get it fixed with no problems...

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I posted this on a different thread, but I got the dang thing apart by pushing forward on the trigger until it "clicked". Then I squeezed the trigger and the hammer dropped. Then I was able to take it apart no problemo. The thing is....I can't really see what's wrong with it. When I assemble it and cock it it cocks...but I still need to push the trigger forward till it clicks, and then squeeze the trigger to have the hammer drop. Anyone have any ideas?

 

Dep

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QUOTE (TommyGunner @ Jun 3 2006, 06:45 AM)
Sounds like a spring may be worn or crushed. Give me a call.

Damon

Thanks Damon. I'm pretty good with taking apart firearms, but most of my experience has been with Garands, Carbines, and FALs. Not really sure how to take apart the trigger housing on the Thompson. And Auto Ordnance doesn't seem to encourage it's disassembly http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif

 

I'll give you a call on Monday and can send pics of the lower if that helps.

 

Dep

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