MafiamanJ15 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) Not sure how recent this is, but I thought some of you guys might be interested in this:Howell Arms who does the cartridge conversions for the old west black powder revolvers now offers some parts and services for Thompsons as well.While it looks like they are mostly focusing on blank-firing parts for re-enactment, they also offer a Reduced Power or "EZ-Pull" spring kit for the semi-auto Thompsons.Might be a good option for others looking to reduce the force needed to pull back the charging handle on their semi-auto Thompson.I just got one for my Khar TM1 Thompson and it is a huge improvement over the springs that it comes with.Link for those who are interested: https://www.howellarms.com/worldwar2/reduced-pull-spring-kit-for-semiautomatic-thompson Edited May 28, 2019 by MafiamanJ15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpune Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 Dan Block got one to me for a tad cheaper, and I got to support one of our own. It is a great improvement for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerslayer Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 I'm trying to catch up on spring kit supplies I should be able to set people up in the near future. I was selling for $55 shipped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riflenut Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 I'm trying to catch up on spring kit supplies I should be able to set people up in the near future. I was selling for $55 shipped. I've used Dan's kit through many rounds - works perfectly & lasts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltimoreed11754 Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 Got a package of 5 springs and buffer material from McMaster Carr and made my own. Works fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) Got one of the kits from Howell yesterday and stuck it in my AO M1 today. Springs are almost identical in length and it fit perfectly. I do like the buffer pad. My M1 is well broken in and the new kit does seem a bit lighter.Plan to hit the range tomorrow and see if it is still as reliable. Edited June 6, 2019 by DeaconKC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 Well, the gun ran fine with both 230 Grain WWB ball ammo and cast handloads. The spring kit is definitely smoother and easier to operate. Seems to me the buffer pad would be a boon to the alloy receiver guns as well. Much like a Shock-buf pad in an alloy frame Commander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter kohler Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 dan did my west hurley . blank fire barrel , springs and a few other mods. ive probably shot 1000 blanks out of it with the ezpull springs. it cocks almost as easy as an original. I did make a larger diameter bfa. it ejects the rounds about as far as live rounds. I also have a 27 a1 he did a bunch of mods to including the springs. ive fired it live 3-4 hundred rounds and the new springs work great. much easier to cock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry Ploughboy Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 I used to use an assistance handle instead of lower force springs in the 27A1 I have. It took a while, but the OEM recoil springs did eventually relax to the point where unaided charging is not that difficult. It took my semi-auto Mini Uzi springs a lot more cycles to get soft enough for me to charge it without an assistance handle. MHO, YMMV, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsavoy Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Hi,I wanted to order a kit for my new "Commando", but they don't ship outside USA,could someone order one for me and resend ?Of course I will pay all feespaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vettom Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) I ordered a set for my new semi; Semi is now in, new springs are installed and does feel a lot better to operate. Now to the range........ Edited June 28, 2019 by Vettom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vettom Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 After range report I have found that i had a failure to feed a few rounds. One suspicion i have is the ammo (I had some remanufactured I was using up along with factory new ammo) on a few rounds FTF with the Howell springs. This is a brand new out of the box Kahr. I had no issues with any of the ammo in my TSMG, new or reman ammo. One other thought is it is new and simply has not had enough use yet. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtrooper Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 After range report I have found that i had a failure to feed a few rounds. One suspicion i have is the ammo (I had some remanufactured I was using up along with factory new ammo) on a few rounds FTF with the Howell springs. This is a brand new out of the box Kahr. I had no issues with any of the ammo in my TSMG, new or reman ammo. One other thought is it is new and simply has not had enough use yet. Thoughts?I had a few FTF's with the easy pull springs too ... Put the factory springs back in and no more problems ... It must differ from gun to gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerslayer Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 The firing pin and bolt group on kahr guns vary a lot on their fit and finish.. Many are very rough and need polishing to function with the ezpull springs. The most recent guns seem better than ones a few years old. If you pull back your bolt and it feels gritty then it needs polishing. The firing pin needs to be taken out for this. The edges polished (but not where it catches the sear!). Then the inside channel needs attention to. And the round hammer hole. Some firing pins are bent and don't hit The hole in the bolt cleanly. Why is it this way??? Good question. Bad quality control. The extractor now needing to be pinned in place is but another example of bad parts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerslayer Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 Plus tight chamber. That's also a problem. Steel case wolf is undersize for example and will work in guns that other ammo gives problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vettom Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 I appreciate the feedback deerslayer, I would say that the bolt did not feel gritty when pulled back prior to firing at the range as I did operate it some to get a feel for it with the new springs. the fit and finish initially seems pretty good. I did wipe out the oil inside (seemed dirty for a new gun) and reoil to ensure there was enough and coverage. I have never used steel case ammo in anything I personally just don't like it. I will go thought it and clean and inspect it this weekend with your comments in mind. That said, how would one know if the chamber is tight?Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerslayer Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 They are all tight... Some are just really tight.. 4-5 years ago kahr made them a little bigger.. And now they aren't bad..I haven't seen one yet that my reemer wouldnt still remove material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick57 Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 i tried to order the ez kit and it says you have to agree to this I agree to only use Cowboy Ammunition with Lead Bullet* whats up with that cant use regular ammo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray burge Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) I was wanting to go with a spring kit, but I just snipped a few coils off at a time until I achieved the same results. I also added a buffer pad to keep from battering the receiver too.Now my gun is a lot easier to charge (probably not as easy as what a spring kit provides) and I haven't had any FTF or FTE issues so far. Edited July 23, 2019 by tray burge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick57 Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 I asked about the "I agree to only use Cowboy Ammunition with Lead Bullet"that comes up when ordering the ez pull kit and got this reply in case any one else wonders Mr. Smith, I apologize about the confusion, my website does not have the ability to distinguish between a conversion cylinder, a reduced pull spring kit or a firearm. Yes you can use both live and blank ammo with our kit. rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossbreed45 Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 I asked about the "I agree to only use Cowboy Ammunition with Lead Bullet"that comes up when ordering the ez pull kit and got this reply in case any one else wonders Mr. Smith, I apologize about the confusion, my website does not have the ability to distinguish between a conversion cylinder, a reduced pull spring kit or a firearm. Yes you can use both live and blank ammo with our kit. rick Glad you cleared that up for us - thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsavoy Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 I wanted to order a kit for my new "Commando", but they don't ship outside USA,could someone order one for me and resend ?Receive mine (many thank to the forum guy who did help me )I will be able to try at the range in a couple of weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmexicocoonass Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Just what I was looking for - thanks !!! El QNMCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68coupe Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) i tried to order the ez kit and it says you have to agree to this I agree to only use Cowboy Ammunition with Lead Bullet* whats up with that cant use regular ammo?Can you say CYA? That way they can't be held liable for malfunctions. My research has resulted in ZERO results for "Cowboy Loads w/lead bullets", except in .45 long. .45 ACP is an ENTIRELY different type of ammo. I received my kit today, and plan a trip to the range Monday. Will report back w/results. All factory 230gr FMJ loads. BTW, after installation, Pull is MUCH easier. Can't hardly wait to get to the range. Edited September 20, 2019 by 68coupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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