huggytree Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/792857104 ive seen these for sale...this one isnt overly pretty this one i assume is a Semi auto conversion to full as the maker is listed as someone else besides spitfire..plus it has the crazy long barrel anyone have one of these to tell me about it? GG mags...modified? how? im always open to rock bottom FA....no idea in this horrible market what this will sell for...i suspect not much most likely the cheapest FA we will see right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M17ap Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Barrel is standard 16 inch as came from factory. Pretty sure it uses standard GG mags no modification. Also bolt rides on 2 rods like a grease gun. Bolt cocked with finger like GG. Usually go for around 6K maybe more. Don’t have one but a friend did years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted December 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 I hear crinkle coat finish like a sterling ? What is the lower made of? Sheet metal, plastic , milled , aluminum ??? Is that front grip original ? Id be a bidder but only for a bargain x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M17ap Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Front grip is original on auction pic . Front grip and lower pistol grip frame are both aluminum. Trigger parts are steel. Only lower has Crinkle paint like Sterling. Upper and barrel and bolt are blued steel.Gun is sturdy not flimsy. Recoil is light. Has a rubber buffer that looks like the rubber lifts you put in rear springs of 60’s and 70’s cars to jack up rear of car for that cool look back then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted December 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Auction is already what Id value the gun at I suspect someone will pay $6,000 for it. I feel sorry for that person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taeelec Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Has my vote for the ugliest SMG. I can't believe anyone would buy a Spitfire for $6k. If funds are tight buy a Reising. An actual WW2 Marine Corp issued SMG. Todd in Oregon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yohuang Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 People selling this type in better condition for $3000 back in 2012, and no one wanted it. https://www.gunauction.com/buy/10946788/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Ohio Services Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 your spitfire was mfg. in TN. in the mid 60s by 1968 with the gun act. it was found that when you moved the safety 1/2 way between safe and fire it was full auto. i know be cause in march of 1968 i had one and lost it to the atf. i orig. paid $110.00 for it new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted December 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 I was hoping it would go $4000-4500 in this crap market with a messed up finish...id have a couple hundred more into a refinish.....no way id pay $6k, but I think someone will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpune Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) your spitfire was mfg. in TN. in the mid 60s by 1968 with the gun act. it was found that when you moved the safety 1/2 way between safe and fire it was full auto. i know be cause in march of 1968 i had one and lost it to the atf. i orig. paid $110.00 for it new.This reminds me... (not to completely derail this thread)I have a new production AO 1927. If you pull the trigger and turn the safety, the safety can be made to hold the sear block down. This takes the trigger and disconnector out of play and the spring pressure holds the firing pin in its forward position inside the bolt. I haven't tried it, but it seems like if you dropped the bolt like this, it could chamber a round and set it off and run in full auto like the fixed firing pin thompsons. Edited December 7, 2018 by giantpune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkel Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 Saw this spitfire on GB. The owner made some nice upgrades. I do not know the seller.https://www.gunbroker.com/item/790757246 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 Hi, Yes fugly. Funny thing. I had 4 of them a few years back. All of them ran great. Ugly yes but they did work. I also have a friend that put the 9mm GG internals in a gun, new barrel, and I thought someone was messing with a S/A trying to make it sound like a MG. In 9mm it had about a 350 RPM cyclic rate. There is a Spitfire that shows up at KCR every year. The gun is short of everything but shooter but he has fun. I sold a few of them to friends and they are still friends but there is a bunch of grousing about the quality of the guns They likely have the award as the lowest price MG currently on the market. Ugly. Grasshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifthmdec Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 There was a Spitfire thread on the boards a fews years back. There was a guy,I think that his name was Jack. Cannot recall his last name. Did business under J&S Guns or something to that effect. He stated that he worked on them. Anybody have any information on him? I think that his shop used to be in Maryland. Rumor had, that he was moving to FL... Or know anyone out there in NFA land that is familiar with them? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmeyers2004 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 I have one and love it. I made it 9mm and it runs like a champ. I think these guns are a steal for what I paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted October 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 I bought one from one of the big dealers. The gun would shoot 2-3 rounds then jammed. The front grip was loose from the start. After a few mags it flopped freely. I noticed a few more Allen screws had been added, so someone else had the same issue. I tried tightening it up, but they were stripped as the grip is aluminum. Accuracy was pretty good. I took it apart and the tube is so thin it felt like a kids toy. I sent it back for a refund. This is a gun that makes a Mac look like high quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGinGA Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 I have a semiauto made by Eagle Arms. Think it’s a Spitfire clone. Not sure how to describe the lower; seems like cast aluminum. It uses an M3 style bolt, guided on two rods. Cocked with an under bolt finger hole. It is a POS - seldom fires more than 2 rounds without a stoppage: the rounds sit too low and the bolt pushes it into the front of the mag well which pushes the bullet into the case. I’ve tried throating the feed ramp (which is the barrel end) with no effect. I suspect the mag is not held high enough; my thought was to sell it, but getting my Reising to run well (with lots of help from this board) taught me patience, perseverance, and gunsmithing self-education, so I’ll get the damn thing to work. Agree with the posters who said it is an ugly gun. At the Creek, I heard of a well known shooter who insisted on firing the Subgun course with a Spitfire. He experienced multiple failures which delayed the event for subsequent shooters and has given him a bad name. Rumor has it that Spitfire/clones will be banned from match use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGinGA Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Correction to my first post: my gun is cocked by sticking a fingertip in a gap between the bolt and receiver. When the bolt is forward, there’s a half inch opening. The bolt is machined such that it is turned to 5/8” or so from the bolt body 1 3/4” back from the tubular receiver’s extraction port. The barrel/forend unit screws onto the receiver using a captive threaded cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsideout Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 They are much more reliable if you have feed ramp installed, open up the ejection port about 1/2"+, and swap out the stock bolt for an M3A1 grease gun bolt. And if you remove the rear rubber buffer, it slows the ROF down to about that of a grease gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifthmdec Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 Example of a feed ramp for a Spitfire SMG. A friend had four over the years and had feed ramps attached on each one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkel Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 Example of a feed ramp for a Spitfire SMG. A friend had four over the years and had feed ramps attached on each one...Well done modification. Did you achieve reliability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifthmdec Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Yes, he stated that the modification did what he expected it to. The Spitfire bolts were used with all of the modifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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