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The answer is, as others have pointed out, these ARE pre-86 sales samples. The C pre-fix serial number range (C-310XXX) shows them to be from the pre-May 19,1986 period. No machine guns imported after the GCA of 1968 are transferable. Ive never seen an exception to that. I sold a lot of new MP5s to law enforcement and took many back in trade. All HK guns made prior to May 19, 1986 are now considered pre Samples. These would have original form 5s from HK to the agency with the purple Law Enforcement restriction designation stamp. Upon later transfer to a dealer, if they were born before 5/19/1986, they would be re-designated restricted to use as a Sales sample. The MDPD MP5s advertised are not going to transfer successfully as unrestricted guns no matter what the department thinks or says. Id bet the farm on that. Sooner or later somebody at NFA will catch the mistake.

The top cover Trommelhalter was $1750 about 1 year ago. I bought the Patronentrommel 34 for ~ $5200 in Jan 2020. Regardless of the money and time involved, it's definitely an addiction! I've heard that Ryan is a very big collector of this stuff as well. And a very big thanks to JohnsonLMG41 for getting me the lead on the winding/adjustment key for the double drum which I was able to purchase from AAS in France!

I bought one. I own a 1928AC. I definitely recommend it! trim.05760A6F-0E15-4913-AF26-469995B81F86.MOV

Marc, Yes, several things wrong with that parts kit. The compensator is a Type II, likely not the correct compensator for that gun based on the history documented by Gordon Herigstad. Good call on the barrel threads showing, I have never seen that either, especially on a Type II compensator on a Colt gun. Of course the flattened pin and visible barrel thread are suspect, indicating a reblue. Couple that with the fact that the person manning the table at the recent Ohio Gun Collector's Show earlier in May, while myself and another Board member were examining the parts kit, volunteered that the barrel and compensator had been reblued. The longer pieces of the receiver where it was cut appear to have been polished on the edges and the serial number on the small piece appears to have been overstruck with the character "9". Nice call on that, Arthur. The wood and metal wouldn't look like that on a gun that had been with the Marine Corp in Nicaragua, either. Regarding the early Auto-Ordnance logo, vs the later style, recently examined guns in the 4900 plus serial number range exhibit both type logos appearing nearing the 5000 range which used to be the accepted standard. I find the early grip frame markings and squared actuator slot unusual for a gun in the 4900 serial number range as well, although anomalies have been noted over the years. For example, St. Valentine's Day Massacre 1921A Model # 2347 has a a squared actuator slot but has later Full Auto/Single fire select markings and horizontal lines on the receiver for Fire and Safe.

Definitely a flattened comp pin, and also, the barrel threads are left slightly exposed. Those I have seen have the comp screwed on until no threads are visible. Hope those with a greater sample base will comment if this is a normal variable. The highest number Auto-Ord-Co I'm aware of. TD? Anyway, it could be that the comp was removed to allow use of a Richardson Heavy Duty barrel vise, or equivalent.

Serial number seems to be 4955 with a 9 superimposed. Cutts Compensator has flattened out pin ends. No halos on U.S. NAVY or overstamp 8 but there is bluing discoloring behind the stamping. No JHB stamp on a Colt receiver in this lower serial number range is unusual.