mgvince Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 I'm looking to get a Thompson. I've done a lot of reading on this board and other internet sites. A lot to learn. Are the Stembridge guns posted on Gunbroker worth considering? What has bee done to them? Are they still C&R eligible? I'm looking more for a shooter, than a collector gun. But don't want junk either. Thanks, Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda4 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=386679349 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOGLEG Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 (edited) It is an AC 1928 with incorrect sight, barrel, front wood, and refinished.At a quick glance. Edited January 11, 2014 by DOGLEG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1930sRust Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 That's a West Hurley sight and foregrip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) I'm looking to get a Thompson. I've done a lot of reading on this board and other internet sites. A lot to learn. Are the Stembridge guns posted on Gunbroker worth considering? What has bee done to them? Are they still C&R eligible? I'm looking more for a shooter, than a collector gun. But don't want junk either. Thanks, VinceVince, If a good shooter is what you want the main thing to focus on is the receiver. 1928A1 parts kits are still available although the price keeps rising. With such a kit, everything on the gun can be replaced except the receiver. The first thing to beware of is a remanufactured,(rewelded), receiver. Next thing to avoid is a unsightly appearance , pitted, pitted and buffed etc. Lastly check the hole at the rear of the receiver that houses the trigger frame lock. With a lot of use this hole can become egg shaped, allowing the trigger frame to move back and forth. This can be repaired but will be an expense. Naturally the more parts that need replacing , the cheaper you should try to buy the gun for. Lastly a bluing or Parkerizing job, with out polishing can be done to make the gun look like new. Jim C PS the Stembridge gun appears OK at first glance. Seller was nice enough to state the reserve price. At $15,000.00 it would probably be a excellent buy. Edited January 11, 2014 by jim c 351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1930sRust Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=163885 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Not so sure this is really one of the former Stembridge Gun Rentals Thompsons. Most of the older Stembridge guns were, in fact Colt, guns modified for the war movies of the 1940's and 1950's to look like military 1928 Model guns. Stembridge did have several 1928A1 Thomspons they used also. I'm pretty sure Gordon Herigstad has all the serial numbers of the former Stembridge guns. It would be interesting to see if this is one of them. I think, from a collectors standpoint, the gun would have been worth more in original condition, if it really is one of the Stembridge guns, that the complete makeover done to the gun listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgvince Posted January 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Thanks for the replies. I'm will be getting a 1928/A1 gun. I want it to be able to use drums. I've looked at the West Hurley guns and I know that they are ok guns. But I want a AO Bridgeport or Savage gun. There had been a 1928 lend lease gun on GB recently. It didn't sell at $15,000 and had been relished. But then it closed. Someone must have made a deal with the seller. It looked pretty good from the pics, but I'm not informed enough yet to know if it was a decent gun, or what price range is good for a mismatched gun like that. I will keep looking up information. I'm going to the Show Of Shows in Louisville, the end of February. Are there any forum members that go? It would be good to talk to some knowledgeable. There is a SOT in the Kansas City area, that has a 1928A1 Savage that I looked at. It's a sample gun, but great to look at. Gives me some prospective to compare to others. I kind of want to buy from a reputable dealer or someone that is known of buy some trusted people. Sending that kind of money to an unknown person from an auction site is a little unnerving. I have bought P38s and Lugers from GB. But this is different. I have NFA stuff now. AC556, suppressor, SBR. So the NFA process is nothing new to me. And I have a C&R, so hopefully I won't have to do SOT transfers. Any more info that you knowledgeable gentlemen can add will be appreciated. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 There will probably be several board members at the Show of Shows next month. I hope to attend, but don't know for sure, yet... David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimFromFL Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Not bad for a "shooter" grade Thompson.It all depends on your objective.If you plan on using it as a shooter than go for it. Maybe even offer a bit less after the auction if it doesn't sell.You would save some money and the seller would also save money.If you plan on just looking at it they pay extra for one at least with the proper parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda4 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Take the Stembridge gun and figure another $2K in a good parts kit, drum or two, and with some careful swapping around you can make it a nice WWII gun. And if verified as a Stembridge gun like GIJive says from Gordon H, it will have that history with it too. Good starter gun especially if it can be had at the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfacol Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Here are the Stembridge Thompsons by inventory number. One would have to contact LMO for serial number verification. Several have been refinished by now, so the descriptions are about as up to date as the prices. ****************************** N816 1921 THOMPSON COLT LIVE - HORIZONTAL FRONT GRIP REPLACED - 28A1 BUTTSTOCK - ORIG FINISH - FINNED BBL - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER - FINISH HAS SLIGHT WEAR ON EDGES $8,500N818 1921 THOMPSON COLT BLANKED -WOOD IS ROUGH - ORIG FINISH - FINNED BBL IS A REPLACEMENT BBL - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER - FINISH IS 80% $8,000N819 1921 THOMPSON COLT BLANKED - WOOD IS ROUGH - ORIG FINISH - FINNED BBL HAS BEEN REPLACED FOR BLANKED - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER - FINISH IS REBLUED 85% $8,000N821 1921 THOMPSON COLT BLANKED - HORIZONTAL FOREND - REBLUED - FINNED BBL HAS BEEN REPLACED AND BLANKED - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER - FINISH IS 80% - SCRATCHES ON UPPER SURFACE - SERIAL # IS ETCHED ON BOTTOM OF TRIGGER GUARD $7,800N822 1921 THOMPSON COLT BLANKED - VERTICAL FRONT GRIP - WOOD IS ROUGH -REBLUED - FINNED BBL HAS BEEN REPLACED AND BLANKED - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER - FINISH IS 80% $8,000N823 1921 THOMPSON COLT BLANKED - VERTICAL FRONT GRIP REPLACED -REBLUED- FINNED BBL HAS BEEN REPLACED & BLANKED - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER - FINISH IS 90% $8,000N824 1921 THOMPSON COLT LIVE - VERTICAL FRONT GRIP - BUTTSTOCK ROUGH - ORIG FINISH - FINNED BBL - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER - FINISH HAS SLIGHT WEAR ON EDGES - MINOR SCRATCH UNDER SERIAL # $9,000N825 1921 THOMPSON COLT BLANKED -HORIZONTAL FOREND - REBLUED - FINNED BBL HAS BEEN REPLACED AND BLANKED - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER AND BUTTSTOCK IS NUMBERED TO GUN - FINISH IS 90% $8,300N826 1921 THOMPSON COLT BLANKED - VERTICAL FRONT GRIP REPLACED -REBLUED - FINNED BBL HAS BEEN REPACED FOR BLANKING - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER - FINISH IS 80% $7,800N827 1921 THOMPSON COLT BLANKED - VERTICAL FRONT GRIP REPLACED -WOOD IS ROUCH - REBLUED - FINNED BBL HAS BEEN REPLACED FOR BLANKING - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER - FINISH HAS SLIGHT WEAR ON EDGES - 95% FINISH $8,000N828 1921 THOMPSON COLT BLANKED - VERTICAL FRONT GRIP REPLACED - WOOD IS ROUGH - GREY GUN - ORIG FINISH ON RECEIVER IS WORN OFF - FINNED BBL HAS BEEN REPLACED AND BLANKED - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - CUTTS COMPENSATOR ROUGH - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER $7,500N829 1921 THOMPSON COLT BLANKED - NO FOREND - WOOD IS ROUGH - REBLUED - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINNED BBL REPLACED AND BLANKED - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER - FINISH HAS SLIGHT SCRATCHES $8,000N830 1921 THOMPSON COLT BLANKED - NO FOREND - REBLUED - FINNED BBL REPLACED FOR BLANKING - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER - FINISH 90% - NO COMPENSATOR $8,200N831 1921 THOMPSON COLT BLANKED - HORIZONTAL FRONT GRIP - REBLUED - FINNED BBL REPLACED FOR BLANKING - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER - FINISH HAS SLIGHT WEAR ON EDGES - CUTTS COMPENSATOR $8,300N833 1921 THOMPSON COLT LIVE - HORIZONTAL FOREND- BUTTSTOCK NOT ORIG TO THIS GUN - ORIG FINISH - FINNED BBL - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING UPPER AND LOWER - FINISH 96% $8,800N815 1921/28 NAVY COLT FINN BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - MATCHING LOWER - VERTICAL FOREND - JHB RIGHT SIDE - FINISH IS 96% - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - LIVE - REPLACED BUTTSTOCK $9,000N254 1928 BAR CARL GUSTAFS-STADS ORIG BLUING -LIVE- MISSING FRONT SIGHT- ORIG BUTTSTOCK AND FOREND - BUTTSTOCK CRACKED REBBLED TO 30 CAL $7,800N255 1928 BAR CARL GUSTAFS-STADS TRANSFERED IN 1958 -ORIG BLUING -BLANKED - BBLED RECEIVER ONLY $7,500N623 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT REBLUED 1928 A1 THOMPSON - REBARRELED - BLANKED - FINNED BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - MATCHING NUMBER LOWER - NEW VERTICAL FOREGRIP - NO RECOIL SPRING $4,800N835 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - MISMATCHED NUMBERS - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT - SMOOTH BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR $5,200N836 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - MATCHING NUMBERS - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT - SMOOTH BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR $5,400N838 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - NO NUMBER ON LOWER - HORIZONTAL FOREND - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - SMOOTH BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR $5,200N839 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT - FINNED BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - US & A1 ARE GROUND OFF - REMARKED AC $4,600N841 1928A1 SAVAGE BLANKED - BLUED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - HORIZONTAL FOREND - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - FINNED BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - MARKED US MODEL OF 28A1 $4,600N843 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT BLANKED - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT - SMOOTH BBL - NO COMPENSATOR - GREY GUN - US & A1 ARE GROUND OFF - REMARKED AC $4,400N844 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS NOT MATCHING NUMBER - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT -SMOOTH BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 $4,600N845 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS NOT MATCHING NUMBER - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT - SMOOTH BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 $4,600N849 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT BLANKED - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT - SMOOTH BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - US & A1 ARE GROUND OFF AND REPLACED W/ AC $4,500N850 1928A1 SAVAGE BLANKED - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT - FINNED BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 $4,600N851 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS MISMATCHED - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT - SMOOTH BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 $4,800N852 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT - SMOOTH BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 $4,600N853 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT - SMOOTH BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 $4,600N854 1928A1 SAVAGE LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT - FINNED BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 $4,800N855 1928A1 SAVAGE LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT - FINNED BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 $4,600N856 1928A1 SAVAGE LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT - FINNED BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 - PISTOL GRIP IS PAINTED AND CHIPPED $4,600N857 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - HORIZONTAL FOREND IS CRACKED - FIXED REAR SIGHT - SMOOTH BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 $4,600N861 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS NOT MATCHING NUMBER - HORIZONTAL FOREND - FIXED REAR SIGHT - SMOOTH BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 $4,600N863 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT BLANKED - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS NOT MATCHING NUMBER - FIXED REAR SIGHT - FINNED BBL - NO COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - US AND A1 MARKING IS REMOVED AND MARKED AC -NO FOREND $4,500N864 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT LIVE - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - FIXED REAR SIGHT - FINNED BBL - NO COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - US AND A1 MARKING IS REMOVED AND MARKED AC -NO FOREND $4,600N865 1928A1 SAVAGE BLANKED - PARKERIZED UPPER AND LOWER - LOWER IS NOT MATCHING NUMBER - FIXED REAR SIGHT - SMOOTH BBL - NO COMPENSATOR - FINISH IS WORN - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 -NO FOREND $4,600N867 1928A1 SAVAGE BLANKED - GREY GUN - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - FINNED BBL - NO COMPENSATOR - WOOD IS ROUCH - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 - VERTICAL FOREGRIP $4,600N872 1928A1 SAVAGE BLANKED - GREY GUN - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - FINNED BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - WOOD IS ROUCH - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 - VERTICAL FOREGRIP HAS BEEN REPLACED AND HAS 4 SCREW HOLES IN IT. $4,600N873 1928A1 SAVAGE BLANKED - GREY GUN - LOWER IS NOT MATCHING NUMBER - LYMAN REAR SIGHT - FINNED BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR -WOOD IS ROUCH - MARKED US MODEL OF 1928A1 - VERTICAL FOREGRIP $4,600N876 1928A1 AO BRIDGEPORT BLANKED -GREY GUN - LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER - FIXED REAR SIGHT - SMOOTH BBL - CUTTS COMPENSATOR - WOOD IS ROUCH - US & A1 HAVE BEEN REMOVED - MARKED AC - VERTICAL FOREGRIP $4,600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfacol Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 For those interested in reading about Stembridge from the olden days, there is a good article from 1969 A.D. published in a real man's magazine, "True". Not safe for today's "pyjama boys." The article can be found at this website: http://www.originalprop.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/true-magazine-stembridge-article.pdf Back then a "pyjama boy" was a "Charlie" deserving of some fire rain. Drive on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfacol Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) Here is another Stembridge article for the really old folks who are still waiting for their twin-prop gyroscope monorail car. It was published in the February 1934 issue of “Modern Mechanix and Inventions”. http://www.originalprop.com/public_html/stembridge/ModernMechanix.pdf Edited January 15, 2014 by nfacol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 For those interested in reading about Stembridge from the olden days, there is a good article from 1969 A.D. published in a real man's magazine, "True". Not safe for today's "pyjama boys." The article can be found at this website: http://www.originalprop.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/true-magazine-stembridge-article.pdf Back then a "pyjama boy" was a "Charlie" deserving of some fire rain. Drive on... Here is another Stembridge article for the really old folks who are still waiting for their twin-prop gyroscope monorail car. It was published in the February 1934 issue of “Modern Mechanix and Inventions”. http://www.originalprop.com/public_html/stembridge/ModernMechanix.pdf Great articles, thanks for sharing.Particularly liked the account regarding the loaning of weapons on Dec. 7, 1941. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgvince Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Just got Tracie Hills Ultimate Thompson book delivered today. I'll be doing a lot of reading for awhile. That Stembridge gun is not bad. The reserve is $15000. I'll keep looking for something that will need less work. David Spiwak has a nice looking late war parked gun on his site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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