jim c 351 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) Here are some pics of a recent addition to my collection, a Colt M1919 AMR. This rifle is almost the same as the M1918 Colt except the operating spring is in the butt stock. This rifle, like the Colt TSMG is a commercial gun. The photos will show that the butt stock, gas adjuster, and front site are not original. By adding all the Colt M1919 guns in Jim Ballou's book, I came up with 339 guns. I did not count R75 & R80 guns nor any foreign caliber guns. So--I may have a one of 339 BAR. Can anyone out there add more info on this AMR??? Jim C Edited April 30, 2018 by jim c 351 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Jim, Congratulations on your new machine rifle! I like it... David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt21 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 A beautiful example of old school Colt workmanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1957 Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Outstanding Jim!! Glad you got an good one! Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inertord Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Nice find, congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Congratulations Jim, nice piece of history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normal1959 Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Really nice Jim and a blast to shoot.CongratsEric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Jim, beautiful weapon as discussed- What are the markings on the butt stock ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Sandy,I can't make out anything but the numbers. Junkyardslug had similar stocks for sale at one time, perhaps he will enlighten us.In any case its a poor quality stock and I have already contacted Dan Block about making a proper stock in the future.Thanks to all for the comments.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylta Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Jim,Are you looking into replacing the non original parts?Nice find.Darryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Darryl,Well, sort of.I'm not going to waste time looking for an original butt stock. I plan on having Dan Block make one. From what I have read Dan will make a stock every bit as nice as Colt would make.I have already bought a Enfield front site. Seems like the same as the BAR site.I think the gun should have a gas adjustor without a hole in the front end. For the time being I plan on using one with a hole. If I find some thing better, fine, if not I won,t sweat it.SO far everything seems to be Colt.Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylta Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Jim,I'll look at my stash of BAR stuff. I may have everything you need including the commercial but stock.I will not be home until the weekend though.Darryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Darrylta,Thanks, I'll send my email by PM in case you want to send any pics.Keep in mind that my 1919 Colt has the main recoil spring is in the butt stock and probably can't use a military Colt 1918 stock.Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted February 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Does anyone know?????????????????When the FBI started arming itself in the 30s, did they buy 1919 Colts like the one above, or did they get free BARs from the US Army???Thanks,Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Jim,Don't forget about the FBI Colt Monitors, I 'm pretty sure Larry has that information on his web site. Does Jim address this in his book ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Sandy,I have pictures of fairly large groups of FBI agents posing with Monitors and conventional 1918 style BARs.We know they bought the Monitors from Colt. Where did they get the 1918s. Not mentioned in Jim B's book.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Where are all the BAR experts, when we need them. I'm just a learning hacker on the subject. I've seen that photo on Larry's site I think... Never really looked if they were 18s , doubt I could tell if they were 19 Colt Commercials.My 45 year , geez maybe 50 now, research has been about the Barrow/Hamer guns. Learning all the time. Jim, you've entered the BAR Twlight Zone on the 19 Colts..CJL & I analyse dust on Dillinger/Nelson guns. We'll all keep at it. OCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanDavid Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Jim,Don't forget about the FBI Colt Monitors, I 'm pretty sure Larry has that information on his web site. Does Jim address this in his book ? Can someone post a link to Larry's web site please, thanks. Regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) Alan, Nice to hear from you, here you go.Jim C http://historicalgmen.squarespace.com/ Edited February 3, 2018 by jim c 351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Sandy,Where are all the BAR experts??? Good question.I have reread the BAR posts going back to 2003 several times. What seems to be the case is, the most knowledgeable BAR experts have long since abandoned this forum. Some disappeared over 10 years ago.Probably not enough posts to keep their interest and not enough BAR owners.I guess BAR owners are much scarcer than Thompson owners.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annihilator Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Here is mine It is a 7x57 and it came with a bipod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Nice gun, Chilean export model I believe ( Ballou book ) beautiful weapon. Jim C- notice the short charging handle, gas regulator and barrel-thread protector on this 19. OCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Annihilator,Very nice. Does the pistol grip have a small "c" with arrow stamped on the bottom??If you have ever read the riot/trench gun forum, you'll note that dalbert has a picture section where the various makes are featured.It would be nice to have such a section for the BAR photo's and yours would be a good starting point. Its a really nice BAR.Thanks for posting.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted April 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Here's an update on this Colt AMR as posted on post #1.This Colt came with a padded jump case.Yesterday I examined the case more closely.In the muzzle end of the case I found a paper rolled into a ball and compressed to the size of a large egg.Upon unravelling the paper I discovered an ATF form 5, dated Sep 26 ,1973, for the above rifle.This form transferred the gun from the State of Utah to a gun dealer.I checked Jim Ballou's book on page 97 and learned that 10 Colt Auto rifles were sold to Salt Lake Hdwe in 1922.May 5th -2 gunsMay 31st -2 gunsJune 7th-6 gunsI imagine these guns went to State prisons or Stated police and my gun may have been in the group.Any Utah collectors out there who could add to this.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanDavid Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Which organization holds the records for these BAR shipments? I thought the Colt Archive Service located in the Colt factory did not have any shipping ledgers for full auto small arms? Regards AlanDSydney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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