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jim c 351 Long Time RKI Member

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I recently bought a very nice verticle grip from Dlansky.

David and I both believe it to be a Savage grip. If it turns out not to be , I won't be crushed as its a very nice looking grip.

So,--Question # 1--- is this a Savage or Bridgeport AO verticle grip???

 

Next,-- the bolt hole is countersunk so much that a rear pistol grip bolt is long enough to secure the front grip.

So,-- Question #2----did Savage countersink the front grip hole deeper than the Colt grip so a longer ,Colt style bolt would not be needed for a switch in the field??

As can be seen in the pics, when the Colt bolt is used in the Savage grip,with no washers, it hits the barrel.

Jim C

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The only VFC's I've seen with the bolt hole recessed so the rear grip bolt can be utilized were repro's made about 8-10 years ago. Also the USGI grips I have seen all were pretty close to the Colt pattern other than being just slightly oversized. I believe this was due to the copying during production. I would say what you have there is not a USGI piece made by a contractor. If the shape was right it would be possible that this one was countersunk further by someone who had a rear grip bolt but not the VFG longer bolt.

 

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Great pics! I've been keeping an eye out for good pics of a Colt VFG from various angles, mainly so I know how it is supposed to look. Your post fills the bill Jim. Sorry I can't be of any help with your questions. I'm way too new at this to know the answers.

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I have one of those countersunk VFGs too. GIJive here wrote a great post about Colt VFGs a while ago - I t should be found by searching....

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TD,

OK- thanks for the nice pics.

Based on these pics I have a repro grip.

But,---I seem to remember, either Frank I or gijive, once stating that he has never seen an original Savage VFG stamped with an "S".

Hopefully, gijive will respond.

Are both of your Savage grips stamped with an "S".

With my blurry vision and untrained eye, your grip with the sling swivel looks more like a Colt grip. Shows how little I know.

Thanks for responding.

Jim C

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Jim,

The two grips are different. One is definitely marked with an S. The other grip is on an early Savage Thompson sent to Great Britain. I do not know if it is marked with an S. Could it be a Colt fore grip? Anything is possible.

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Jim,

The two grips are different. One is definitely marked with an S. The other grip is on an early Savage Thompson sent to Great Britain. I do not know if it is marked with an S. Could it be a Colt fore grip? Anything is possible.

TD,

Are you the current owner of both grips?????????

Jim C

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jim c 351 Long Time RKI Member

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Arthur,

Thanks for responding.

Yes, I saw the grip you have posted in the archives and I see what your refering to.

But how can we be sure its a Savage?? Is it stamped with a "S"?? Does it need to be stamped with a "S"???.

Canuck has three Savage verticle foregrips and has volunteered to post pics. Lets see what he has and then comment further.

Jim C

 

This reported Savage grip is noticeably different from the ones posted in this thread in that the curve goes past the horizontal line.

 

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b56/Polythemus/Savageverticalgrip_zps9b30c5d7.jpg

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Jim C

I checked the vertical grip on my 1940 Savage and it is identical to the one you bought from David.

It is not marked with an S and the hole is not couneter sunk.

Also the curve does not go past the horizontal line.

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Jim,

 

Here are the three Savage marked VFGs. The grips all have a countersink which averages out to approximately 5/16ths at the back of the curve. None of them have a curve that comes above the horizontal line. The grips are in the same order in every picture although the lighting makes them look different. The "S" on S-22802 is closer and just right of the bolt hole. That particular grip is also just ever so slightly smaller than the other two. I don't think it really shows in the picture but I can definately feel it in my hand.

 

Trust this is of some help to you.

 

Canuck

 

 

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DD,

Thanks for your reply.

Would it be possible to post some pics, so we could compare to Canucks grips???

Jim C

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I checked the vertical grip on my 1940 Savage and it is identical to the one you bought from David.
It is not marked with an S and the hole is not couneter sunk.
Also the curve does not go past the horizontal line.

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Canuck,

Thanks for the really excellent pics.

Thats the biggest collection of Savage vertical grips I've seen in one group.

Hopefully they will be featured in the pinned section.

To me, grip #S153,676, looks the largest.

In one pic, grip #22,802 looks the smallest. In another pic , #33,791 looks the smallest.

The center and right grip looks like it still has a washer in place. Did you remove all washers before measuring the depth of the countersink??

The countersink in my grip is approximately 7/16 inch.

All of your grips are stamped with an "S" and yet others have grips without the "S" that they believe to be original Savage. I wonder who will be able to explain this.

Hopefully others will have some idea's.

Jim C

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Jim,

 

Yes,the washers were still in place on the center and right grips but I allowed an extra 1/16 for those two. If you are measuring from the front of the grip curve then 7/16 works out on mine. I think the grip on 22802 and 33791 fits the profile of the 1921 more than 153676. 22802 and 33791 are very close but 22802 is just slightly more "petite". Very subtle difference. I have another VFG that has no markings that is very similar to 153676. After the horizontal grip became the standard perhaps marking any VFGs became redundant, a waste of time. I am going to go out on a limb here and say I'd bet money the early Model of 1928s had "S" stamped VFGs (those that were in the British contracts prior to lend lease). Just when you think you already know "all" about the Thompson a little detail like this makes you realize "not really".

 

Dave A., if you would like to use any, or all, of my photos in the pinned section they are yours to do with as you wish.

 

Canuck

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