Guy In Upstate Bought A Bren Parts Kit!
Posted 15 April 2004 - 06:57 AM
Posted 15 April 2004 - 03:48 PM
Edited by LIONHART, 15 April 2004 - 03:49 PM.
Posted 15 April 2004 - 04:55 PM
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Posted 15 April 2004 - 10:39 PM
you'll wear the riflings (sic) out of a .22 barrel if you clean it with a brush.........you can shoot .44 magnums out of a .410 and it's ok, you can shoot .223 in a 7.62x39mm because the drill sgt. told them the commies could use our ammo but we can't use thiers (also see 7.62x54r interchanging with 7.62 nato). These are just a few that I can remember. If every dumbsh*t that comes in spouting off about converting something to full auto was a fed there would be more of them than us. Most of the same people think a MAK90 is a machine gun. The fact is very few people know anything about the mechanics of firearms or the law and that includes law enforcement. The local ATF agent tried to tell a friend of mine that he could register an M14 that was abandoned at his shop. The agent adamently stated he'd help him register it so he could keep this U.S. GI M14. 3 days later he figured out it was illegal and came by to get it. Take care of your own business in a lawful manner and don't worry too much about the other guy unless it has ramifications to you personally. Most of the gunshop commando talk is based on a couple of movies and listening to others without the ability to comprehend what people who are into the hobby enough to be on a website like this are saying. Oh, I forgot and saved the best ones for last. These happen when they look at my 2 dummy 1919s on display........That's a 50mm machine gun just like I shot in the army...........looking at the .30 muzzle,"That's a pretty nice .50 cal. you got there". To compile your own list of great gun shop commando quotes rent a table at your next gun show and let the games begin. One last quote for the road. A man was impressing his 20 yr old son with his firearms knowledge by pointing out that the East German 7.62X39 ball that I was selling had," Binell primers and corrosive powders in it." All most forgot the guys building illegal Stien (wtf?) guns. I always wanted to ask how much beer they hold.
Posted 16 April 2004 - 07:17 AM
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Edited by LSU Tiger, 16 April 2004 - 10:21 AM.
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Posted 18 April 2004 - 03:22 PM
several times you mention, " This kid claims he recently purchased a Bren parts kit, from overseas, via the internet. ".
the term "parts kit" catchs my eye.
parts kits are all over the place for just about any old mil weapon, i was looking at getting a garand kit. in fact i put my 1919 together from a kit.
now i don't know if even a semi version of a bren is a no-no in NY.
and i'm not up british weapons, but is it a tube gun like the sten?
being a kid, proud of his new purchase maybe he's just bragging it up.
i mean it's a parts kit(all parts EXCEPT the receiver) and all you're really missing is the receiver to have a "fully funcationial full auto". so technicaly it was a full auto, just missing an important part or two...
i've heard of a few people doing semi converstions on stens maybe it's not that hard for a bren.
once agian i referance my '19.
the art of converting them is far from rocket science. buy a parts kit, a little bit of internal machining on a few parts, a new RSP and a semi auto trigger and sear, and BANG you have a semi auto belt fed.
and this guy works at a gun shop, you would think he knows the rules of this game?
i'll shut up now...
Posted 18 April 2004 - 03:56 PM
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Posted 21 April 2004 - 07:57 PM
and IF the batf approves the "design" anybody can then follow that same process to build a semi from a parts kit.
Posted 21 April 2004 - 10:41 PM
Since the "Shrike" is de rigueur discussion on the Bowers and Buddy boards, mostly because so many people have submitted deposits over a year ago on a belt fed M-16 upper, it never occured to Ares to first secure clearance with ATF? He got a patent, sollicited deposits, built a working model, but figured he could deal with the red tape when the feeling was right. If you even suggest the Occam's Razor answer on the other boards as to why they have not received their Shrikes, they consider you a heretic. The same goes with questioning the Stewart ruling.
Posted 21 April 2004 - 11:22 PM
Posted 21 April 2004 - 11:43 PM
Looks like the ATF letter was dated Jan 2003. His site was last updated 4-17-04. Since he is now taking orders, it appears that this info is fairly current. I've been following his build and approval for awhile. The last obstacle he overcame was to create a dummy flash supressor to pass the AWB test.
Posted 22 April 2004 - 07:35 AM
That is one of the problems of these kit rebuilds, you read all the material, you follow all the rules, but you constantly keep looking over your shoulder. I had that feeling with the homemade semi 1919s. There are scads of people who have done this, but I felt a bit uncomfortable pursuing mine and I would certainly feel conspicious taking it to a public range. If you have any doubts, it is best to buy one already made, by a company that has been in business for awhile, like U.S. Ordnance. I would think if it is purchased through an FFL, you have covered your bases. I don't know if they have the semi Bren, but they did make a semi Vickers that caught my attention.
Posted 22 April 2004 - 08:12 AM
Posted 22 April 2004 - 08:37 AM