moonbat60 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Gentlemen ! I'm the proud owner of a 2004 Kahr Arms M1 semi auto. On the few times that I've taken it to the shooting range, I almost broke my fingers to get it cocked. So an extending bolt / charging handle was ordered. Now while browsing the web I've read somewhere that there are also some reduced weight easy-pull recoil springs available, and on the contrary, Wolff gunsprings sells some extra power recoil springs. Would not one or the other lead to FTF or FTE ? Who has experimented with both and can give me a lowdown ? Thanks in advance, Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerslayer Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 The ezpull springs equal the Full auto spring pull, and I know the bolt it a bit lighter thus there may be a bit more recoil force, but there is a buffer in these that is not in a standard Kahr semi auto. Also take a look at the back of the receiver, its massive to say the least. The only issue with the ezpull springs is that that standard Kahr semi auto has very rough surfaces inside the bolt and on the firing pin. These must usually be polished by complete dissassembly then the ezpull springs work fine. If the gun has been shot a fair amount, the surfaces will likely have polished themselves to the point that it won't be necessary to dissassemble. I can sell you a set for $30. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonbat60 Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 My Thompson has seen approximately 300 - 400 rds. through it, mostly Winchester wb. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embalmer Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 The ezpull springs equal the Full auto spring pull, and I know the bolt it a bit lighter thus there may be a bit more recoil force, but there is a buffer in these that is not in a standard Kahr semi auto. Also take a look at the back of the receiver, its massive to say the least. The only issue with the ezpull springs is that that standard Kahr semi auto has very rough surfaces inside the bolt and on the firing pin. These must usually be polished by complete dissassembly then the ezpull springs work fine. If the gun has been shot a fair amount, the surfaces will likely have polished themselves to the point that it won't be necessary to dissassemble. I can sell you a set for $30. Dan Dan do you sell the whole set, buffer and all?? if so I am interested for my 1927-a1 SBR commando. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerslayer Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Yes, three springs, buffer and new hammer which is attached to the spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anticus Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I have sets in all three of my SBR's. Work like a charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobretti Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I have sets in all three of my SBR's. Work like a charm. Why did I pay $80.00 for the kit from TommyGunner.com? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasvwnut Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I added a EZ Pull spring kit from deerslayer and it was the best $$$ spend on the semi I've ever made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonbat60 Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Dan, will that set also work in an M1 ? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anticus Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I have a set in my M1, it works great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbruce Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Will it work with an Auto Ordnance, 1927-A1 semi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylta Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 I bought the EZ pull kit from Tommygunner.com, It worked fine in my sons Kahr 27 semi. I think the bolts are the same in both the 27 and M1 Kahr's, but I'm not 100% sure of it. -Darryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonbat60 Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) I bought the EZ pull kit from Tommygunner.com, It worked fine in my sons Kahr 27 semi. I think the bolts are the same in both the 27 and M1 Kahr's, but I'm not 100% sure of it. -Darryl That's good to know. i may go that route too. Pete / moonbat60 Edited January 26, 2010 by moonbat60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonbat60 Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 AFAIK, the bolt or bolt carrier on both is the same. Dan, how can I get hold of you ? Pete / moonbat60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylta Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 http://www.naturalistnotebook.com/index.html is Dan's website. -Darryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embalmer Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 http://www.naturalistnotebook.com/index.html is Dan's website. -Darryl Just got mine from Dan today, and have already installed and tested with excellent results. Best $30 I ever spent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasvwnut Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 http://www.naturalistnotebook.com/index.html is Dan's website. -Darryl Just got mine from Dan today, and have already installed and tested with excellent results. Best $30 I ever spent I totally agree!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnutz13 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 The ezpull springs equal the Full auto spring pull, and I know the bolt it a bit lighter thus there may be a bit more recoil force, but there is a buffer in these that is not in a standard Kahr semi auto. Also take a look at the back of the receiver, its massive to say the least. The only issue with the ezpull springs is that that standard Kahr semi auto has very rough surfaces inside the bolt and on the firing pin. These must usually be polished by complete dissassembly then the ezpull springs work fine. If the gun has been shot a fair amount, the surfaces will likely have polished themselves to the point that it won't be necessary to dissassemble. I can sell you a set for $30. Dan ================== Hey deerslayer... I own a Kahr Thompson 1927a1 Commando and would like to purchase a ezpull spring set from you. Please PM me with the details ASAP....Thanks! PS...also shot you a PM via this board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtommygunner Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Dan, got mine, installed in a 27 westy I'm putting togeather, works great, thanks Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonbat60 Posted February 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Hey Dan ! I got my EZ pull set yesterday, installation was a breeze. Now I can't wait to try it out.......... Let's see how it works out. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonbat60 Posted February 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 I gave my Thompson M1 a workout today at the range. I went through a bunch of CCI Blazer Brass and a buch of reloads. It works like a charm right now ! I've got 100% reliability with all the ammo fired. Accuracy was never an issue, though I know that Thompsons are no match grade weapons. I'm one happy camper! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embalmer Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) I gave my Thompson M1 a workout today at the range. I went through a bunch of CCI Blazer Brass and a buch of reloads. It works like a charm right now ! I've got 100% reliability with all the ammo fired. Accuracy was never an issue, though I know that Thompsons are no match grade weapons. I'm one happy camper! Pete After seeing how my thompson worked before and after the ez pull springs, I'm thinking the heavy recoil springs are probably the majority culprit of misfeed and jam issues with these guns. I know it isn't the answer to all their probs, but if it seems to misfeed and jam a lot id recomend switching out the factory springs with the lighter ones. Edited February 10, 2010 by Embalmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonbat60 Posted February 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 On mine, I also polished the bolt carrier and the firing pin. The bolt carrier was blued on mine, and after removing the blueing, I found rough surfaces and toolmarks. Kahr / Auto Ordnance didn't do too good of a job on the internals. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james m Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Dan: Would you please post ordering instructions here for those among us who don't know how to order from you. Regards Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonbat60 Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I guess that it also would not hurt giving the bolt carrier and the firing pin a going-over with a polishing wheel and some scotch brite. Lighter springs might be a good start, a recoil buffer is good to have as well. I'm very happy the way it worked out. $30 well spent. Thanks Dan ! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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