steeltoe1978 Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) Price reduced on 17 JUN 2011 from $2500 to $2000 for everything. Instead of taking a bunch of pictures, I made 4 videos. PLEASE DO NOT go posting them on youtube (I will be deleting them after the guns are sold). I know that I said "pancake suppressor" instead of "compressor" but I had just finished cleaning a suppressor right before making this video and had "suppressor on the brain", so please refrain from the "what the hell is a pancake suppressor" posts. Also, I'm not certain if the metal is aluminum or not, but that's my guess. What is included is 2 guns, almost 50lbs of #2 chilled lead shot (one sealed 25lb sack and one "cookie tin" full of almost 25lbs), over a thousand red star targets (still in wrapper), and about 20 or so loading tubes (I definitely have 1, but I am looking for the box that has the others amid the vast amount of clutter that accumulated in the back room of my house... these will ship later at my expense if I cannot find them in time to ship them with everything else). I am asking $2000 for everything (price reduced from $2500.) Shipping and insurance will be at cost (probably around $100 or so, but will work out the exact price from the post office depending on where you live). BOTH of these guns DO function properly. Any questions, please ask, but please view the videos first to get an overall idea about both guns. Also, if anyone knows what a pancake suppressor is, please let me know. :troll: IF THESE (BB GUNS) ARE ILLEGAL OR RESTRICTED IN THE STATE WHERE YOU LIVE, I CANNOT AND WILL NOT SELL AND/OR SHIP THEM TO YOU! PLEASE CHECK YOUR STATE LAWS BEFORE MAKING AN OFFER! Gun 1 outside: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v191/ste...urrent=BB_1.mp4 Gun 1 inside: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v191/ste...urrent=BB_2.mp4 Gun 2 outside: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v191/ste...urrent=BB_3.mp4 Gun 2 inside: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v191/ste...urrent=BB_4.mp4 Edited June 23, 2011 by steeltoe1978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philasteen Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 steeltoe, a fantastic package and wish I had the scratch but I recently bought two Thompsons that shoot hot lead and am a little strapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Gunner Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Nice. I just want the big stuffed bear that I spend a ton of cash trying to win for my gal with those one night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james m Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Bit of trivia here if these were the type where the goal was to shoot all of the "X" out of the target to win. My understanding is these took regular .177 BBs but the bore was much larger. In effect you were trying to accurately shoot with what was essentially a shotgun firing one pellet at a time! Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeltoe1978 Posted March 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) Bit of trivia here if these were the type where the goal was to shoot all of the "X" out of the target to win. My understanding is these took regular .177 BBs but the bore was much larger. In effect you were trying to accurately shoot with what was essentially a shotgun firing one pellet at a time! Jim These guns fire #2 chilled lead shot, which is smaller than .177 BBs (the shot is typically used for loading shotgun shells as well). They fire fully automatic and hold about 100 rounds each. The bore is the size of the BB... the "Cutts compensator" looking thing on the end is not the diameter of the barrel... it goes over it and just makes it look more like a Thompson. The loading tubes are brass and came cut to length to hold 100 rounds each. 100 rounds will only last for a few bursts until you're out of BBs... depending on what PSI you're using (120 PSI or so is recommended) and how well your trigger control is. I'd estimate about 10BBs are fired with every quick pull of the trigger, but again, they are full automatic so you can just hold the trigger down and blast all 100 out with one pull. The trick was to try to pick away at the points of the star and not worry about the middle until last, or cut a hole around the star. Cutting the target in half did not count (I did this a few times thinking I would be creative). A pic of the target is shown below. Most of the time, only one tiny, pin-head sized piece of one of the points of the star would be left (hiding and barely attached on the back of the target due to being pushed through by a bb), and the carnie would say that you didn't shoot it all out. A few thousand of these targets are included so you can practice all day long. :-) These things will absolutely chew apart an empty soda can, your wife's nice china set, unsuspecting small animals, pesky neighbor kids, etc. I was thinking about making a hopper that allowed for more BBs to be held in the back so that you're not limited to 100, but I have other projects that I want to move on to, and it's time to let these go to someone else who will appreciate them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/steeltoe1978/photo.jpg Edited March 30, 2011 by steeltoe1978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeltoe1978 Posted March 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 steeltoe, a fantastic package and wish I had the scratch but I recently bought two Thompsons that shoot hot lead and am a little strapped. I completely understand. Thanks for the reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeltoe1978 Posted March 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Nice. I just want the big stuffed bear that I spend a ton of cash trying to win for my gal with those one night. Me too... well, that and the girl that I was trying to win it for at the time. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 (edited) When I was a kid (late 1950's) my mom used to take us to Willow Grove Park in suburban Philadelphia - a famous amusement park (John Phillip Sousa played there often) where most of the rides and buildings had been built by the 1920's. By then it was pretty run down but still very popular. They had a carnival area that had a booth with these BB guns. They did not have the paper targets but a variety of metal targets - moving ducks, spinning stars, bells, etc. My favorite were little battleships sitting in water because the BB's made little splashes all around. When you hit them they fell down, but the operator could re-set them all by pulling on a cable. This is a good memory...a lot different than todays virtual entertainment. Who would have thought years later I'd actually be making the real thing... Bob Edited March 31, 2011 by reconbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeltoe1978 Posted March 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 When I was a kid (late 1950's) my mom used to take us to Willow Grove Park in suburban Philadelphia - a famous amusement park (John Phillip Sousa played there often) where most of the rides and buildings had been built by the 1920's. By then it was pretty run down but still very popular. They had a carnival area that had a booth with these BB guns. They did not have the paper targets but a variety of metal targets - moving ducks, spinning stars, bells, etc. My favorite were little battleships sitting in water because the BB's made little splashes all around. When you hit them they fell down, but the operator could re-set them all by pulling on a cable. This is a good memory...a lot different than todays virtual entertainment. Who would have thought years later I'd actually be making the real thing... Bob That sounds like a darn good time! I have only seen the paper target version, and other than that my favorite shooting gallery has also been the "light guns" gallery like the old one that I think is still at Ocean City MD. I always liked shooting the target on the piano player mannequin and making it play. Having one of those ranges in my house is on my "win the lottery" to-do list (which will probably never happen, but it's fun to dream). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copdoc Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 My favorite were little battleships sitting in water me too I think these are the same guns they used in Myrtle Beach in the late 50s -60s with the ducks and boats moving through water in the gallery. I was about 5 the last time I remember shooting one and did not have the fire control them that I have now. They were a lot of fun and it was about as much fun shooting the water as the ducks and boats. I'll have to add one to the lotto list also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACBurke Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Put me on the list if the original folks can't or don't put it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwiifirearms Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 I am going to let someone else jump on this deal. They are super cool, pretty rare, and priced right. I bought an m1c last weekend and looking at a Sten this weekend. Too many toys this month. -wwiifirearms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl7422 Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Please add me to the list as well. thanks, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeltoe1978 Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Put me on the list if the original folks can't or don't put it together. Added. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeltoe1978 Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Please add me to the list as well. thanks, John Added. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeltoe1978 Posted April 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 ACBurke, you're next on the list. PM sent via forum mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeltoe1978 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 jl7422 contacted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUTTERRATT Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 They use to have some of these BB guns along with the star targets at the Circus Circus casino in Las Vegas, NV. when I was a kid, I never won but I tried a lot, Back then I never dreamed I would ever own a real one, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21 smoker Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Growing up in Chitown,experiencing anything` gunfun` was rare for me,..but a trip to Riverview amusement park would start me on a lifelong firearm love affair. The shooting arcade that had pneumatic Browning 1919 clones that were fed by overhead plastic tubes of ballbearings and blasting floating plastic ducks and moving background targets,all the while carney workers hanging on the sides of the pool pushing the floating targets to the center and getting in the line fire(sometimes),just ruined me for life!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeltoe1978 Posted June 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Back to Top... due to price reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z3BigDaddy Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Email offer made.... Blaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeltoe1978 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Email offer made.... Blaine Reply email sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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