Robert Henley Posted October 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 What is the discoloration on the receiver (just to the left of where it says Colt Industries and running all the way up and down the side of the receiver) of this M16? Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuge Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Most likely it is enamel paint that dripped down. Colt (and others) used this process to set the roll pin on the bolt catch as well as to prevent rust in the staked areas of the castle nut on the receiver extension. A sign of authenticity in my view... Edited October 26, 2013 by nuge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Hi, And not to be forgotten are the C&R M16's. Ok. They are marked Colt Armalite AR-15 but they did sort of start the ball rolling. Real deal MG's before the military adopted the M-16. The forward push pin is a bit different but at least it is in the right location! Advantage of the C+R's is while you have an active C&R you can go to friendly states w/o a 5320.20! Grasshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Henley Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 A C&R M16 (there was one for sale recently in one of the auctions in a recent post) would be great. Also the advantage of transferring directly to you (if out of state). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Robert, if you're serious about a Colt M16-A1 contact Dennis Todd. He has several that are very nice. He's in Springfield, PA. 610 543 7300 or Dtoddmg@aol.com Tell'em bug sentya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Henley Posted November 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 I'm thinking with the current wait times for BATF approval, I'll keep my eyes open here in Florida unless I see a C&R gun which could transfer directly to me. There seem to be plenty of M16's around. I'll keep my eyes and ears open for one. Thanks, Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptCurl Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Ruben Mendiola is in Florida and he carries a good inventory of M16A1 rifles. Curl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Ruben is a supporter of this website, and I also recommend him. David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuge Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 (edited) Dittos for Ruben - the Billistics RDIAS in the photo above was acquired from him as were other NFA items I own. Always a pleasure to do business with him. Edited November 11, 2013 by nuge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffen Und Bier Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Actually, since there is a forum for about every other gun on this site, a dedicated M16 one might be nice. Arf.com has too much traffic and noise and posts disappear. This site seems to me the best site I've found for friendly discussion, knowledgeable people, and lack of squirrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Waffen Und Bier, I've resisted adding an M16 full auto only forum, although I agree that it would probably be well received here. The reason I've not added it is that I'm friends with the owner of Uzitalk, and we have sort of a gentleman's agreement to not add new forums that are already covered on each other's site. That's why there's no Thompson forum on Uzitalk. I have an interest in MACs, S&W Model 76's, HK's, and M16's, but Uzitalk already has good forums for each. I sometimes post in the MAC, HK, and SW 76 forums over there. We do have an overlap on Stens and Reisings, but those forums already existed here when I acquired the site in 2008. David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Baron Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Thanks David for that bit of info. I am in the market for an mp5, may have found one, and was wondering why there was no forum here discussing the different variations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Any of these weapons are welcome to be discussed in the Class III forum. David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffen Und Bier Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I understand. It's probably also a pain to moderate, manage, etc boards. I'll check out Uzitalk. Hope it's the same caliber as this group. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Thanks David for that bit of info. I am in the market for an mp5, may have found one, and was wondering why there was no forum here discussing the different variations. The HKPRO site is pretty good for that type of info. I see Davids point in not reinventing the wheel. Did you have specific MP5 questions? Bob D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Baron Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Thanks Bob. I'm interested in the mp5pdw, but wonder how that compares to the mp5a3 versus mp5a2 models. Also as far as parts and durability are concerned, is an mp5 still a better overall choice compared to a colt 9mm package. Appreciate the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 The PDW is actually an MP5K Which was made from an SP89 pistol. I prefer the full size MP5 either A2 or A3 configuration and of those two, I shoot my gun as an A2 just about all the time. It's not as "cool" but it's far more accurate for me. I have an M16 and I like to shoot it as a 9MM. It's not as smooth as the H&K but it's quick and very easy to handle. All my stuff is Colt and H&K. Parts are available but I rarely need to replace anything. You can't go wrong with either platform but they ain't cheap. Try to shoot these guns or at least handle them before laying out cash. Where are you located? Bob D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hntrdarren Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Bug has it correct, the MP5 is the Cadillac of modern submachineguns. As stated you cant go wrong with either platform. I own 2 HK MP5's and a HK MP5SD and the Colt 9mm SMG . I would purchase the HK MP5 platform over the Colt 9mm every time even though the Colt 9mm is a great addition to a collection. The HK MP5 in all its forms is the finest SMG I have owned . The Colt 9mm is a fun gun to shoot but the heavy bolt is noticeable during firing and hard on the weapon over time. The one thing I like about the 9mm SMG is the muscle memory of the M16 platform. I love the M16 !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarvin Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I've owned numerous MP-5's over the years. All but 1 were registered receiver push pin guns includingmy MP5-PDW. The push pin allows the use to switch lowers (SEF,Navy,burst,etc) very easily.All of mine had the 3 lugged barrels as well as the paddle mag release.I also owned an original Colt 635 9mm (M-16 variant) as well.I'd take the MP5 full size with the A3 stock over the M16 anytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Baron Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Thanks for all the replies. The mp5-pdw, mp5a2 or a3 I'm looking at are all terry dyer conversion guns with the paddle mag release, lugged barrels, and the multiple firing selections. They are good looking guns, just leaned towards the compactness of the pdw. I've shot the mp5a2, and very controllable with the stock like Bob said. As far as current market prices, is about 30-31k a fair price for a dyer conversion mp5-pdw with the sear pack. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarvin Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Are these sear guns or registered receivers?Price seems about right for push pin registered receiver gunsbut a little high for sear guns.A sear is now mid to upper 20's I'd guess plus a few thousand for a hostSeems like it should be sub $30,000Then again the last MP-5 I bought was my Billistics registered receiver gunfor $10,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarvin Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Just saw this ad on Sturmhttp://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=174605 MP-5 sear gun with some extras for $29,500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Baron Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Yes they are sear guns. From what I've gathered, registered receivers are pretty rare, and most are pre-86 anyway. I believe Terry Dyer did one of the best conversions out there. So if the sear is upper 20's, then at least a few thousand for a host gun, I guess the 30-31 range is not out of the norm for price. You agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarvin Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 I think you can still get a sear gun for sub 30.If your comfortable with the price and the seller,don't let a couple grand stop you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 I have 2 MP-5's that I've owned since the late 1980's. To be absolutely correct, they are converted HK-94's, with sequential serial numbers. One is set up in A3, and the other in A2. I prefer the A2 stock. It's the most accurate submachine gun I've ever encountered. I've never had any problems with either of them, except for the time that we let someone shoot it about 25 years ago with their own ammo...barrel got slightly bulged by a squib round. It still shoots fine, and I have a replacement barrel, but never have had it fixed. Lesson learned about letting someone shoot it at a MG shoot with unknown ammo... David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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