Need Thompson 1921 Stock Help

[Sec-Amend]

I tried searching but most threads that might have help were missing pictured probably due to how old the posts were. If there is a pinned post that I missed I apologize.

 

Im putting together a dummy 1921 based on a Philadelphia Ordnance upper and lower. I have a 1928 stock that is a little beat up so I bought a repro 1921 stock but none of the hardware off the 1928 stock fits the 1921 repro. The 1921 repro also has subtle contour differences and is slightly longer. The slide wont fit in and the butt plate wont sit flat. Did I just get a junk repro or or are the 1921 stocks different?

 

Thanks

[inertord]

The Colt 1921 and later USGI 1928 Metal was the same general dimensions for the most part. There are some poor quality reproduction stocks currently being sold out of Las Vegas. Edited December 11, 2021 by inertord

[mnshooter]

If it was me, I'd be returning that stock, if possible, and ordering one from Dan Block / Deerslayer on the board.

Send Dan your hardware, and he'll fit it to the wood. Dan has patterns for the 21, 28, and Military stocks.

He can also supply a better looking piece of wood, in several grades,

and, if you want, make both vertical grips, all in matching wood.

Edited December 11, 2021 by mnshooter

[Bayrain]

I mean I have 3 different 1928 stocks, oneof them I think is a 1921 as I can't fit any parts off my 1928 onto it

[Sec-Amend]

Inertord, you nailed it. It was out of NV. Gonna try to return it.

 

My grip is one of Dans. It came on the frame I bought. I think Ill being reaching out to him for the stock and foregrip.

 

Do you think this slide is restorable or even worth restoring or should I find another? I havent seen any slides for sale in a while.

 

The buttplate Im guessing is an early 1928 that was refinished at some point. It is marked R so Id like to use it.

 

Thanks guys

[Bayrain]

Those stock slides and the stocks themselves especially complete are extremely expensive most of the time

[TD.]

Sec-Amend,

Welcome to the Thompson forum. I saw that butt stock on ebay from a Las Vegas seller. I am not surprised nothing fits. On genuine military and/or Colt butt stocks, generally the stock slide group will interchange to some degree but swapping out butt plates can be very problematic. Trying to fit parts on an unused genuine GI butt stock usually requires a lot of work. You can now see first-hand the problems with an unknown reproduction butt stock. As stated above, Dan Block is great person to contact for your needs. I would guess he could clean up your stock slide, re-blue it, and make it much more presentable. He can make you a beautiful butt stock that fits your hardware.

 

The numbers on your stock slide indicate it is an early Savage piece. The butt plate has the appearance of being from the Colt era. It is not a numbered butt plate, but perhaps a replacement piece. I saw one like it at Knob Creek several years ago (one R mark but no assembly number). Unfortunately, it looked like it had been dragged behind a jeep for 50 miles and was not worth the $30 firm asking price.

 

If the butt stock turns out to be a lesson, at least it will not be an expensive lesson. If you are new to the Thompson world, I suggest you spend a lot of time on this forum and ask questions of the members. There is a lot of institutional knowledge on this forum. And too many junk Thompson parts on the market at any given time.

[gijive]

I echo what TD said in his post. I have rebuilt many WWII stocks over the years and the replacement WWII butt stock contours are slightly different from the early Savage WWII butt stocks. The later replacement milled and stamped butt plates usually need some tweaking to be made to fit an earlier stock. Remember, all these parts were pretty much hand-fitted back in the day and swapping parts on different butt stocks from different manufacturers sometimes involves some modification. The 1921 Colt era butt stocks were all hand-fitted, as evidenced by the matching production numbers on the wood and butt plates. Same with the early Savage numbered stocks.

[mbc230]

I concur with TD and gijive.

[Sec-Amend]

Thanks for all the info gentlemen. As soon as Im done ordering a Greg Foxx case Ill contact Dan about the stock.

 

Oh and btw I got a refund for the junk stock so it really was just a learning experience.