Jeff51 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 Has anybody heard from PHIL-ORD on the BFONG ? How long is the wait? I have e-mailed them several times on this question and have not gotten an answer. I hope I am on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanksguy Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) Jeff,I am in the same "boat" on 1928A1 Upper and 80%-Receivers.....waiting on "lists". I hope that Bob is doing well (health).........I believe that Bob is just overly busy at this time.........just be patient waiting, and send an e-mail every few months (?). I'm sure that he will get back with us soon. Regards, RichardS.US Army, RETBlanksguy2001@outlook.com Edited March 25, 2022 by Blanksguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilroyjones Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) There was a thread about this a month or so ago. IIRC Bob was waiting on the ATF for determination. ETA: http://www.machinegunboards.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25318&hl=%26quot%3Bblank+firing%26quot%3B&do=findComment&comment=226768 Edited March 25, 2022 by kilroyjones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeTaylor95 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 I am also on his list for an 80% 1928 display receiver. Speaking of the ATF, did anyone else see where the ATF could have their new determinations and revised definitions of 80% parts could be as soon as early April? It sure seems like we are living in "extreme" times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanksguy Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 Yes, I recall the earlier "thread"..........at that time, Bob was waiting for a "Determination" from Tech.-Branch about changing the Bolt-face/size to accept standard .45ACP-Blanks as the initial BFONG was approved by Tech.-Branch using a reduced diameter-rim Blank. I believe that Bob is just real busy.......and we all need breaks some time. Regards, RichardSUS Army, RETBlanksguy2001@outlook.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjong-ni Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) It is said that "unfinished (80%) receivers" will have to be "DROS"'-ed in CA starting soon.After accepting their "nominal fee", the state will provide a serial number to be engraved vividly on the item, and there will be the usual background check and 10-day wait. Want one in CA? Better get an order in. ...Phil Edited March 25, 2022 by anjong-ni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMGguy Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 Call Phila Ord. Bob is very good about answering his phone. You'll probably learn something to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 I will let Bob speak for himself, but yes hes very busy. Ive been on his list for an M1A1 Bfong since Oct 2020. I think calling would be better, Im sure he has a ton of emails. I need to give him a call about some other items myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 Did anybody ever order a 1928 blank firing model and get one?i asked to be on order list i think over 2 years ago. heard nothing at all.RON K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dam6 Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 Yes, I purchased both when Bob first offered them Both 1928a1 and M1A1 also 600 blanks,I do not remember when they first were offered, or how much I paid. !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anticus Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) I bought the 28 as a barreled upper assembly and added my own TSMG lower and Lyman sight to save a few bucks. Runs and looks great, Edited March 30, 2022 by anticus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) Bob announced his blank only M1A1 on 12-24-2016. Prices in 12-2016 were advertised as the following. I am offering these to board members at a pre-production price of $2495. The special blanks for the gun sell for $25 per box of 50. http://www.machinegunboards.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=20191 Edited March 30, 2022 by Bridgeport28A1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiz Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 OK. I'm stupid but can someone break down the BFONG acronym for me. I figured out that B=blank, F=firing but cannot figure out the rest, and I do play WORDLE now and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjc1620 Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Blank Firing Only Non Gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 I am sorry I did not see this sooner. here is an update - Yes, I sent the ATF a gun with a bolt that would fire standard .45 blanks, and over oneyear later they ruled this was not allowed. (Don't ask their reasoning it will drive you crazy.)So I am making the original gun with the reduced rim blanks. I do keep an list of people who are interested in a gun, and after the wait for ATF I ammaking more guns. I have also (finally) found a machine shop to make the major componentsso that I can concentrate on assembly, bluing, etc. and I expect to get more and more gunsout there. The price for the gun was originally $2495 for the M1A1 and $3650 for the M1928A1. I willhave to revisit these prices because everything has gotten more expensive. Steel has almostdoubled in cost since the beginning of last summer, And the original parts used to completethe guns have also become harder to find and more expensive. The entire trigger frame andstock assembly of the gun is standard G.I. Thompson. I make trigger frames but all of the otherparts are G.I. The blanks are made from new/virgin brass cases with a crimped end. The original price for theblanks was 50 cents a round. (Now over 5 years ago.) That was when primers were 3 cents each.The current price of the blanks is 67 cents each and this almost entirely due to primers being over4 times the cost of what they were back then. It seems that the cost of primers is slowly comingdown and the cost of the blanks will come down as well. The blanks have always been sold in200 round boxes. I cannot predict delivery time because no deposit is required to be on my list, and I do not knowhow many people will drop out when it is time to actually buy the gun. I appreciate those hanging in there with me on the project. I will say this - the gun is all machinedsteel, and looks, weighs, feels, and sounds like a real Thompson. The only thing missing is bullets.When the gun was finished and approved, we spent weeks working on the ammo. We had to find a powder,a blank adaptor size, etc. and there was no source of reference for this because it had never beendone before. The initial firings the gun fired too fast, and the empty cases were violently ejected a greatdistance. But we got it figured out. Also, we fired the gun with a decibel meter to make sure that it alsosounded like a Thompson and went BANG instead of "pop". Bob/Phila Ord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauserMatt Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Thank you for the update, Bob. The organization I work for (WW2Armor.org) owns one of your M1A1 BFONGs and it is a work of art. They really are externally indistinguishable from a live gun. We're getting low on ammo for it, so we'll have to plus up here soon. Thanks for what you do! I may have to get on your list to get one of the barreled receivers to go along with my personal transferable M1 Thompson.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiz Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Blank Firing Only Non Gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndArmored Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Is the bolt assembly for the 1928A1 the same as in the M1A1, but with the bolt handle mounted on top instead of the side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 Yes, the M1928A1 bolt is identical to the M1A1 bolt except thatthe ball knob cocking handle is on the top. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 Well i guess a 1928 is still in my future,Good news they are still doing it. RON K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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