RChapman Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Hello everyone, i wanted to share the special 1928a1 i have got today. a couple of days ago i have found one ad regarding this deactivated 1928 with just one faded picture, i have noticed straight away by looking the buttstock / rear grip combo (not to mention the knurled controls) that this wasnt just a standard 1928a1. the seller wasnt capable of shooting a few pictures.. and so i went personally to grab the gun. and nothing!! it turned out as expected, that its a half Thompson 1921 SN 9283!!! complete with all Colt internals, buttstock and rear grip with original hardware, matching buttplate!! i opened the buttstock hoping there was its nickel oiler too.. but have been swapped with a late type m1a1 oiler. its missing the no hole magazine catch. The stains you see here and there are caused by the excess of cosmoline on the parts. Anyone is able to recover the history of this? how it landed in europe? Who knows if out there, someone have the rest of it... maybe mixed on a 1928a1 lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter2015 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Hello,Great find, if you want to sell the Buttstock complete with hardware please contact me. I am in need to complete a project.Thank youtd_nittany_ lions@outlook.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adg105200 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Looks like it's seen it's share of use. Great find! Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R67 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Sweet find! I recommend letting the metal parts soak in a thinner to remove the cosmo. Diamond in the rough: too cool. Again, Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piep Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 That's a great find. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snipershot1944 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Looks like you need a nice foregrip too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin601 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 that is sweet, congratulations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RChapman Posted January 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Some pictures of the buttstock, interesting placement for the sling swivel. i dont know why for some reason the pictures are so dark. Edited January 23, 2018 by RChapman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 If you set a hair dryer with the hot air blowing on a gun, the metal will become hot enough after a while to liquify cosmoline and you can wipe it right off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RChapman Posted January 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) If you set a hair dryer with the hot air blowing on a gun, the metal will become hot enough after a while to liquify cosmoline and you can wipe it right off that thing is a headache, in a way its ok it give a certain degree of protection, but if i show you a picture of the trigger frame interior, you will have some real nightmares, you could literally pick it with a spoon. Edited January 23, 2018 by RChapman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 That is a Berthier sling swivel, and it's placement is characteristic of the Colt Thompsons ordered by the French government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 If you set a hair dryer with the hot air blowing on a gun, the metal will become hot enough after a while to liquify cosmoline and you can wipe it right off that thing is a headache, in a way its ok it give a certain degree of protection, but if i show you a picture of the trigger frame interior, you will have some real nightmares, you could literally pick it with a spoon. meh, once a gun comes out of storage, I don't see any purpose served by leaving the cosmoline on try heating the gun with the hair dryer, just leave it on the gun for a half hour until the metal stings your skin a little, the cosmo will get nice and runny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adg105200 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Interesting sling swivel location. Is there any numbers on the stock slide hardware? Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) I agree with Big Al. I thought at first NO 9283 may have been one of the 951 Colt manufactured Thompson guns purchased by the US Government in July 1939 since pictures of NO 9263 show the added US and A1 markings indicating a US Army Thompson gun. Of course, there is no way to determine receiver markings based only on a frame. However, the sling swivel on the butt stock helps us complete the story. The swivel is definitely from the French Berthier rifle and a very common addition to most/many/all of the 3000 Colt manufactured Thompson guns purchased by the French military in November 1939. This was the largest order of Thompson guns from the original 15,000 Colt's production run. These Thompson guns were delivered to France in 1940 before it surrendered to Germany. Most are believed to have been Model of 1921A's. The survival rate of these French Colt's is very low. Congratulations on finding half of one. Obviously, the parts of your Thompson gun were combined in some type of rebuild program. The butt stock would make an excellent display piece in the USA. I wish it was in my collection! See David Albert's story on the Colt Thompsons in French Service in The Ultimate Thompson Book. All good stuff! Edited January 23, 2018 by TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 I checked Gordon Herigstads book, and SN 9283 is blank, no details. So another to newly discovered 'part'1921, to add to the 'Gordons Quest' post? Stay safe Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 See David Albert's story on the Colt Thompsons in French Service in The Ultimate Thompson Book. All good stuff!It's also available online at Small Arms Review. http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=1599 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Scrambles is pathetic and he doesn't belong on a technical forum like this one. I'm not saying that as an insult, it's a simple statement of fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Scrambles is pathetic and he doesn't belong on a technical forum like this one. I'm not saying that as an insult, it's a simple statement of fact. I'd be inclined to agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) This is something I have thought about a lot: how much politeness is appropriate in a given situation. We all stand at the altar of stupidity and make a fool out of ourselves once in a while. But when someone acts this ridiculous and malicious, then all obligation to be polite to the guy is gone. Just give him the heave-ho and good riddance. Edited January 24, 2018 by buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adg105200 Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Not sure where it came from but: "It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" It's ok to disagree with someone else's opinions, but regarding the above post by scrambles, he was trying the opposite of being polite and I think that post should be removed as well as it does absolutely nothing to contribute to this topic. I enjoy this forum to no end, but posts like that are just plain sad to see here. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurencen Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Not sure where it came from but: "It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" It's ok to disagree with someone else's opinions, but regarding the above post by scrambles, he was trying the opposite of being polite and I think that post should be removed as well as it does absolutely nothing to contribute to this topic. I enjoy this forum to no end, but posts like that are just plain sad to see here. Andrew Andrew, well put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Not sure where it came from but: "It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" It's ok to disagree with someone else's opinions, but regarding the above post by scrambles, he was trying the opposite of being polite and I think that post should be removed as well as it does absolutely nothing to contribute to this topic. I enjoy this forum to no end, but posts like that are just plain sad to see here. Andrew Report Scrambles to the moderator if you feel strongly about it, I did! Easy to do, just select 'Report' next to 'Multi quote' and 'Quote' at bottom of message.. Stay safeRichard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adg105200 Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) Thanks Richard, it shows that I'm still learning all of the functions of this board. Andrew Edited January 24, 2018 by Adg105200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Not sure where it came from but: "It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" Andrew I believe that was from a witty gentleman by the name of Samuel Langhorne Clemens, a.k.a. Mark Twain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 My apologies, I missed this post by Scrambles when I was trying to read through everything in my limited time last night. His comments have been hidden, as they are inconsistent with board rules and general decorum. David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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