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#1 Walter63a

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Posted 21 December 2004 - 08:37 PM

This is very scary crap Batman! Some crazy 'sombitch' in a pinstripe suit, shining a leather chair with his/her/their ass(es), thinks stealing, and implementing the Nazi I.D. program in America is a bright f*cking idea!! ohmy.gif blink.gif mad.gif

http://www.lewrockwe...es/yates99.html

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Posted 21 December 2004 - 08:43 PM

Walter,

What TURD in Washington is promoting that crap? We need to flush the crapper and clear the bowl! That is deeply disturbing.

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Posted 21 December 2004 - 09:16 PM

Walter, thanks for posting this. You are definitely a true Patriot. I've been warning others for well over a decade..Been called many things, which would probably be inappropriate to mention here. Though there are some who have there heads so far jammed up into their asses, that they actually think, believe rather, that this is a good thing. I have long stated, that there would be such an incident like 911, to insure passage of any and all so-called Anti-Terrosim Legislation to enslave us all. Conveniently, 911 has paved the road for their continuing efforts. If I wasn't such a rational thinker, I swear some folks would believe our Government was in on it. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if they were. I also believe the expiration of the '94 AW Ban was a total smoke screen to insure the gun vote. It's just a matter of time before ALL firearms are literally banned from private ownership. Oh, it will happen. Many of us have put in a lot of hours contacting our Congressman and Senators, alerting others, and everything else imaginable to protect what freedoms we have left. We have fought the soft war considerably well, but unfortunately, it appears that we have a long hard war to fight in the future. I hope, prey rather, that everyone here, will know exactly what to do when the time comes. If not, might as well hand over your guns right now (I'll provide my address). I will reject the National, ID Card, and I suspect many will too. We can win this, but we will have a difficult battle ahead. I hope that everyone here will alert everyone they know of these threats we face today. Get PREPARED folks in every way possible, were not heading to the year 2005, were going back to 1935.
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Posted 21 December 2004 - 09:43 PM

QUOTE (LIONHART @ Dec 21 2004, 09:16 PM)
Walter, thanks for posting this. You are definitely a true Patriot. I've been warning others for well over a decade..Been called many things, which would probably be inappropriate to mention here. Though there are some who have there heads so far jammed up into their asses, that they actually think, believe rather, that this is a good thing. I have long stated, that there would be such an incident like 911, to insure passage of any and all so-called Anti-Terrosim Legislation to enslave us all. Conveniently, 911 has paved the road for their continuing efforts. If I wasn't such a rational thinker, I swear some folks would believe our Government was in on it. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if they were. I also believe the expiration of the '94 AW Ban was a total smoke screen to insure the gun vote. It's just a matter of time before ALL firearms are literally banned from private ownership. Oh, it will happen. Many of us have put in a lot of hours contacting our Congressman and Senators, alerting others, and everything else imaginable to protect what freedoms we have left. We have fought the soft war considerably well, but unfortunately, it appears that we have a long hard war to fight in the future. I hope, prey rather, that everyone here, will know exactly what to do when the time comes. If not, might as well hand over your guns right now (I'll provide my address). I will reject the National, ID Card, and I suspect many will too. We can win this, but we will have a difficult battle ahead. I hope that everyone here will alert everyone they know of these threats that we face today. Get PREPARED folks in every way possible, were not heading to the year 2005, were going back to 1935.

Thanks Devlin! smile.gif I try to provide 'good food' to those I consider to be friends and patriots, even to the skeptics and naysayers. What they do with it is up to them, and God (because He has given all of us brains and freewill)! I too consider you to be a true patriot and friend. To those with eyes to see and ears to hear, let them take heed of the times we are living in. I think we are on the same page! Here are a couple of other sites you may find interesting. smile.gif cool.gif Best Regards, Walter

http://www.pure-food...National ID.htm

http://www.americansforfreedom.org
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Posted 21 December 2004 - 10:15 PM

Emailed the three slimy devils that are supposed to represent me, thanks for the heads up on this issue.
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Posted 21 December 2004 - 10:17 PM

Walter, I fear that in time, any mention of our Lord will be a crime, in and of itself. The I.D. Card is nothing more than the Mark Of The Beast. IT IS THE MARK as described in the Book Of Revelations. We are living in the end times. There is absolutely no question about it. Take a look around around, Society is drowning in a pool of sinners, and those who will stop at nothing to have total control of the populous. In this day and age, there are actually places in this Country where same sex couples can be married. If that isn't a true sign of a crippling Society, than I don't know what is. As we are aware, our Savior forgives. Though it is clear, NO forgiveness will be granted for those accepting the Mark. I.E-National ID Card. Many Cities have even BANNED Christmas Carolers, Christmas Music aboard Buses, Christmas Activities in Schools, and the disgusting list goes on. Make no mistake about it. There will be a time that even a public mention of God by anyone will become illegal. I for one, will be in the Resistance. Actually, I ALREADY AM!

For those who are unaware, the National ID Card WAS SIGNED INTO LAW LAST FRIDAY...
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Posted 21 December 2004 - 10:35 PM

The next step would be for world wide identification cards. With the UN having access to all systems of tracking.

Sounds like you will swipe your ID card trough a scanner, then your credit or ATM card.

One more way to watch us all. The BIG Brother Syndrome!

As science progresses, not in our life time, but the future the government can track our movement and prevent our leaving the planet. Sound far fetched? Not really.....

Today microchip insertion, tomorrow, GPS chips.
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Posted 21 December 2004 - 11:35 PM

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Sounds like you will swipe your ID card trough a scanner, then your credit or ATM card.


NOT ME. I won't be taking one....

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As science progresses, not in our life time, but the future the government can track our movement and prevent our leaving the planet. Sound far fetched? Not really.....


Most of us living today, WILL see Armageddon. Many of us, if not the majority, will perish. The World cannot continue on the path that it's been going. God will NOT allow it. All these instances are Biblical as foretold in Revelation. Sure, we have a ways to go yet, but before then, it's going to be hell on Earth. FWIW, if you have a Vehicle equipped with ONSTAR (I believe ALL new Vehicles have such a Tracking Device, with or without ONSTAR) or a Cell Phone, your movements can ALREADY be tracked. Can all this be prevented? If WE all band together AGAINST the issue of such ID, we have a chance. Unfortunately, an estimated 70% believe the new ID Card is a good thing. As a realist, and I know I'm right about this, we have a long, difficult journey.
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Posted 22 December 2004 - 03:02 AM

That's scary stuff indeed. sad.gif
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Posted 22 December 2004 - 09:49 AM

Some of you guys probably don't know this but do a Google search on your last name; if you have written any "letters to the editior" you are "on the net" (they are tracking you already)
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Posted 22 December 2004 - 08:24 PM

QUOTE (PhilOhio @ Dec 22 2004, 01:01 AM)
Glad to see you guys appreciate the significance of what's going on.  Think of it as a Hughes Amendment which slightly modifies the Constitution, except for military and law enforcement sales of freedom.

The big question is whether the rest of the population will pick up on it.

And will the media see this as being anything of interest to them?

Talk about the balloon going up....

Lionhart, you've been popping those smart pills by the handfull.  Take it easy.  You'll have a heart attack before they come to dunn you for having an expired I.D. card.

I understand there's going to be a $5000 annual user fee for this one...or is it called a surcharge?  Maybe it was a "freedom subsidy" or "terrorist crusade contribution" or something like that.  I think the State Department has to put their seal on it also, for $500, because there is the assumption that you might travel overseas.

You have to understand, these guys have been thinking all of this over for a lot longer than any of you have.   laugh.gif

What am I laughing about?   ph34r.gif

Phil, I think that a lot, maybe the majority, of the members of this board are very well informed (not being reliant on the mainstream media=Rather, Brokaw, Jennings, The New York Times, Washington Post, etc.) and intelligent patriots. However, I believe that you and Lionhart stand out (there are others too), above and beyond, because you aren't afraid to speak the truth, say what is on your mind and are ready to defend your positions intelligently, cogently and pursuasively. [An interesting digression and story was once told about one of the German officers, captured at Stalingrad, imprisoned and tortured for years by the Soviets. The guards and torturers asked him how he kept his composure, dignity, and fearlessness. He replied, "You can only kill me once."] To me that is powerful and instructive. Like Lionhart, I would be in the resistance to a 'One World Beast Government!" Keep your firearms, defend your God-given rights (some of which are enshrined in the Bill of Rights of The U.S. Constitution), keep a fairly low profile, become more self-reliant and don't take crap from 'shits' in the government!! laugh.gif It helps too that we are basically on the same page. I hope that we all stay well informed, active and principled patriots. cool.gif Best Regards, Walter

P.S. Don't ever let a liberal put you down with the tired, shrill cry that you are an extremist. "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!"-Barry M. Goldwater
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Posted 22 December 2004 - 11:11 PM

Just arrived back from a 9 hour road trip, and I'm just a bit sleeeeeepy.

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Lionhart, you've been popping those smart pills by the handfull. Take it easy. You'll have a heart attack before they come to dunn you for having an expired I.D. card.


Oh Phil, I don't think that it will come to me having a Heart Attack, but what's going on around us is nothing that I haven't thought about before. Actually, many times before. I don't know if I ever mentioned this, but I happen to be an insomniac. No matter how tired and sleepy I get, It's terribly difficult to get any. Indeed, I have been prescribed many different medications over the years, and none seemed to work. I just lay there, with a thousand and one thoughts going through my head...Though, I have gotten to be successful at cat napping for twenty minutes or so every afternoon, and that helps. I remember years ago while on the Job, I fell asleep for about half an hour, and I have to tell you, that was the best damn restful sleep I ever had! Felt like a century. And I've never been able to repeat it..


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You have to understand, these guys have been thinking all of this over for a lot longer than any of you have


That's definitely an understatement...It's clear the plans discussed in the 1960's Report From Iron Mountain is now taking more of an effect on our lives, and will continue to do so.


Walter, I do believe many are on the same page, but that doesn't necessarily help our efforts. One must ACT when needed. There are enough talkers already, and those are the ones that will truly be hurting in the end. You have made many good points, and I would appreciate, as I know others will, to keep us informed of the latest developments when they occur. Rest assured, I will always play a major part, and do what I can when needed!
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Posted 22 December 2004 - 11:56 PM

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You have to understand, these guys have been thinking all of this over for a lot longer than any of you have


That's definitely an understatement...It's clear the plans discussed in the 1960's Report From Iron Mountain is now taking more of an effect on our lives, and will continue to do so.


Walter, I do believe many are on the same page, but that doesn't necessarily help our efforts. One must ACT when needed. There are enough talkers already, and those are the ones that will truly be hurting in the end. You have made many good points, and I would appreciate, as I know others will, to keep us informed of the latest developments when they occur. Rest assured, I will always play a major part, and do what I can when needed!

Devlin, I hope you can get some decent rest tonight! smile.gif [Just think, if we lived in 1904, instead of 2004, you could amble down to the local pharmacy and pick up some marijuana or laudanum to help with your insomnia. Yes, the government really is here to help! They ban everything to help us! Now we can buy FDA approved drugs that increase our chances of heart attacks and strokes. sad.gif ] blink.gif I realize the key is to be a doer. You are so right about the ones doing the talking hurting later. There are far too many vociferous bloggers and whacky websites out there crying that the 'sky is falling' and the 'big bad wolf is coming.' That is why I advocate keeping a fairly low profile. The squeaky wheel does indeed get the oil, or 'special treatment', if you know what I mean. ph34r.gif Best Regards, Walter

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Posted 26 December 2004 - 01:14 AM

QUOTE (PhilOhio @ Dec 23 2004, 12:35 AM)
And I guess it is comforting to know some of you people perceive things the same way, not that this (all our talk) will change anything, as Lionhart reminds us.  Or maybe we all just suffer from the same delusions; this wonderful brave new world is O.K., but we're not.

But no matter.  Hope I get to put faces on some of these names eventually, as at a deranged machinegun lovers group therapy session, perhaps at Tracie's later next year...if that's where it happens.

Phil, it would be great to meet you, Devlin, all the TCA members, and the guys who frequent this board at Tracie's. I hope I can be there next year (2005). rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif I think everyone will find the following recording of Steve Quayle's radio show, from 12/10/04, interesting. The topic is the new National I.D. card, among other sinster government programs. It may sound a little 'out there', but if you give this 1hr program a good listen, I don't think you will regret it!! blink.gif cool.gif Best Regards, Walter

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Posted 30 December 2004 - 06:35 PM

The internet gestapo is watching you!!! ohmy.gif cool.gif http://www.eff.org/P...rorism/PATRIOT/ Happy surfing and posting everyone! mad.gif Regards, Walter


P.S. Don't overlook this!!! blink.gif http://www.infowars....powers_bush.htm


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Posted 30 December 2004 - 10:53 PM

Walter, Nothing surprise me anymore. I believe I had read somewhere that the average Amerikan is video taped more than 75 times daily. We were all warned that this day was forth coming. That Big Brother was just right around the corner. Very few listened, rather laughing it off as "It will never happen, not here, not to me, ect" Everyone needs to get prepared NOW. Otherwise, you ain't going to have a pot to piss in when the shit hit's the fan. Which could be A LOT sooner than we all realize. Hell, it's ALREADY going on. What are folks waiting for? another attack to wake them up? The next one could very well be a plague of somesort, rather than Planes diving into the sides of Buildings.
Thanks Walter for posting those links. The last one is quite interesting, as I've never viewed their material before..

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