rsideout Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Thinking of possibly selling my transferable (C&R) PPS-43. Excellent condition and a great shooter. VERY few of these in the registry. What are the current thoughts on pricing? I have plenty of other FA options and this one just doesn't get used that often. I'm more of a shooter than a safe queen collector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 16 hours ago, rsideout said: Thinking of possibly selling my transferable (C&R) PPS-43. Excellent condition and a great shooter. VERY few of these in the registry. What are the current thoughts on pricing? I have plenty of other FA options and this one just doesn't get used that often. I'm more of a shooter than a safe queen collector. Of course the number in the registry has nothing to do with pricing. I would assume that your C&R unit bolt and receiver match? If so, then the condition of the gun is of course critical. Let's assume it matches, and the condition is "good" or better. I say between $25K - $32K. Even as an open bolt circa WW2 collector, I have shied away from these guns as they use proprietary mags and I just could not reconcile the price with the physical gun. That being said, I almost bought one (of course I contradict myself!) that was a re-conditioned unit, super sharp looking. It was priced (and probably still is) at $32,500. It came with one mag and no other accessories. I think for this particular weapon, you will have to find a buyer who is into WW2 open bolts and wants this to round-out the collection. Pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APEXgunparts Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) Magazines are proprietary to the PPs-43, BUT are very available and priced reasonable. You can source every part you will ever need quite easily. I am working with a manufacturer now to get correct 7.62X25 barrels manufactured (will have some chrome lined, but I really want to stock them nitrided) PPs-43 parts category Ammo isn't as cheap anymore, but I see it available. I have a thread about the design features Alexey Sudaev engineered into this SMG, like a fixed firing pin that can be replaced in the bolt. Russian PPs-43, some interesting features in the design Seems like I see the guns come up for sale at auction every so often. I would have thought more PPs-43's were brought home VS the PPsH-41? ANYWAY, there is a lot of positives with owning, shooting, collecting a PPs-43 so I would expect them to valuable now and even more so in the future! Richard Edited November 16, 2023 by APEXgunparts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxfaxdude Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) On 11/15/2023 at 6:16 PM, rsideout said: Thinking of possibly selling my transferable (C&R) PPS-43. Excellent condition and a great shooter. VERY few of these in the registry. What are the current thoughts on pricing? I have plenty of other FA options and this one just doesn't get used that often. I'm more of a shooter than a safe queen collector. I bought this (pics below) numbers matching C&R PPS43 from Midwest Tactical in March 2022 for $32K. Sticker on the mag says "Lomont" and the gun may well have been his, IDK; I've purchased a number of Kent's guns over the years. "Rare", "very few", etc. -- these terms seem to get tossed around a lot in the machinegun world lately. 43s aren't common but they certainly can't be that rare either. I know a number of people who have one (and I don't know all that many people). Anyway, they shoot well and are simple to maintain/repair/fix if anything goes wrong. I would think $30 to 35 K is FMV. They don't seem to come up for public sale very often, but they are definitely out there. Edited November 17, 2023 by maxfaxdude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 That sir is a good looking gun. I may change my mind! I've purchased several NFA guns from MidWest Tactical and had good experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxfaxdude Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rekraps said: That sir is a good looking gun. I may change my mind! I've purchased several NFA guns from MidWest Tactical and had good experiences. Thank you... I've had good luck with MWT as well. I did buy a Texas Mac 10 from them several years ago but it just didn't look right. They took it back, no questions, asked for a full refund. Edited November 17, 2023 by maxfaxdude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, maxfaxdude said: Thank you... I've had good luck with MWT as well. I did buy a Texas Mac 10 from them several years ago but it just didn't look right. They took it back, no questions, asked for a full refund. I bought the most beautiful M.P.18, I from them about four or five years ago. It was a museum piece and it looks it! Fully matching gun (including firing pin and 20 round magazine!) and I'm quite proud of it. I then spent years looking for extra 20 round magazines (hard as hell to find) and by chance ran into a guy in Arkansas who just happened to have 10! I bought them all. Pricy but NEVER on the market. Now all I need is a M.P.8,I ammo pouch.... and I know someone on this Forum who has several but he will not part with one! Waaaaaaah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Rekraps said: Now all I need is a M.P.8,I ammo pouch.... and I know someone on this Forum who has several but he will not part with one! Waaaaaaah! like these? https://www.ima-usa.com/products/original-german-wwii-mp-18-triple-magazine-double-leather-pouch-set-dated-1935?variant=31112333656133 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APEXgunparts Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Rekraps said: That sir is a good looking gun. I may change my mind! I've purchased several NFA guns from MidWest Tactical and had good experiences. I have had 7 positive experiences with MWT over the years, the most recent one was just a few months ago. They found me a gun I was looking for and at a heck of a good price. I mostly deal with Mike, and he is very good with communication. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 4 hours ago, StrangeRanger said: like these? https://www.ima-usa.com/products/original-german-wwii-mp-18-triple-magazine-double-leather-pouch-set-dated-1935?variant=31112333656133 No, I'm talking 20 rounders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 4 hours ago, APEXgunparts said: I have had 7 positive experiences with MWT over the years, the most recent one was just a few months ago. They found me a gun I was looking for and at a heck of a good price. I mostly deal with Mike, and he is very good with communication. Richard Richard, Mike is also whom I deal with! Good guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland the Thompsongunner Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 You can always replace the barrel and shoot 9mm I believe? I know this is more easily done on a ppsh but I think the barrel is just pinned on the pps43? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsideout Posted November 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2023 Here are some pictures of my PPS-43. Very clean gun. Sorry, not the best pictures. Just some from when I got her home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted November 23, 2023 Report Share Posted November 23, 2023 Hey, that's a sharp gun. It looks excellent, do you know who did the refinish work? Mind sharing what you paid for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted November 23, 2023 Report Share Posted November 23, 2023 Based on recent sales, mid 30's seems to be the going rate for something "collectible" like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 On 11/23/2023 at 12:20 PM, johnsonlmg41 said: Based on recent sales, mid 30's seems to be the going rate for something "collectible" like this: Very nice. Say "Hi" to Jerry for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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