TD. Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 What did everyone think about the article by David Albert in this months SAR titled, Colt Thompsons in French Service? It appears Russell Maguire and company made the largest one time sale of Colt Thompsons to the French in 1939. Actually, depending on whose figures you use, Maguire sold between one-fifth to one-fourth of all Colt Thompsons produced. How many knew there was actually a Thompson made in caliber .351 Winchester - and why? I know this caliber is shown in the 1923 Catalog, but I believe most experts doubted its existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoda Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 I liked it but it was a bit shy on details and pics of smoking T-guns. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif I can tell you why the French were interested in the .351 Winchester round. During WWI they bought a bunch of Winchester Model 1907's in that caliber for airplane (to airplane) use before MG's became common. They also bought a ton of ammo in that caliber and so were probably looking for some common to what they had and with more punch/range than 9mm Parabellum. I had a Model 1907 - what a clunker that was. I got rid of it with no regrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1921 Gangsta Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 I have read of "Deact" Colt 1921's being sold in France , for VERY attractive prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Hey, I have 2 Winchester 1907 in .351. Came from the same PD I got my M1 from. I love it, all 'cept the ammo price. I'll take all you want to throw my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 I thought it was well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oda572 Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 John Dillinger had a very different opinion of the 1907 in .351. Of course he left it behind at Little Bohemia. Just couldn't carry it and a Thompson. Pretty Boy Floyd used one too. Enough of a reason for me to have one in the collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 QUOTE (TD. @ Oct 30 2006, 05:24 PM) Colt Thompsons in French Service? You can buy them cheap, only dropped once. never fired. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 alot of those french thompson's ended up in german service.till the stock's of 45 acp ammo ran out, i alway's liked the pic of that afrika corp cycle trooper with the 1928 and the drum..probably just took it off a brit tommy at tobruk. ah fritz!! now have to put "Sahara" in the d.v.d. and take out Elvira. take care,ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Christopher Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Skoda, You are absolutely correct. The Winchester M1907 is a clunker, especially when compared to a M16. A TSMG is also a clunker when compared to a H&K MP5. Y ou have to remember that the M1907 was available in 1907, the M16 was not. The TSMG was available in 1921 , the MP5 was not. Like the TSMG the M1907 was made the old way, heavy duty milled steel and wood. Like the TSMG the M07 was adapted by law enforcement thruout the US,including the FBI and the border patrol. The 351 cartridge is near perfect for police use. Winchester should have chambered it for the 357 cartridge in 1935. The bottom line is , the M07 was available when needed. Its only Short comming was , it was not featured in movies. Mike, If you reload and havea small lathe , you can make perfect 351 cases by turning the rims of 357 maximun cases. C-H Dies sells reloading dies for the 351. Berry Bullets 38 SPL RN bullets can be sized to 351. 16 grains of 2400 powder and your all set. Seat the bullets long like factory 351 ammo. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Christopher Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Skoda, You are absolutely correct. The Winchester M1907 is a clunker, especially when compared to a M16. A TSMG is also a clunker when compared to a H&K MP5. Y ou have to remember that the M1907 was available in 1907, the M16 was not. The TSMG was available in 1921 , the MP5 was not. Like the TSMG the M1907 was made the old way, heavy duty milled steel and wood. Like the TSMG the M07 was adapted by law enforcement thruout the US,including the FBI and the border patrol. The 351 cartridge is near perfect for police use. Winchester should have chambered it for the 357 cartridge in 1935. The bottom line is , the M07 was available when needed. Its only Short comming was , it was not featured in movies. Mike, If you reload and havea small lathe , you can make perfect 351 cases by turning the rims of 357 maximun cases. C-H Dies sells reloading dies for the 351. Berry Bullets 38 SPL RN bullets can be sized to 351. 16 grains of 2400 powder and your all set. Seat the bullets long like factory 351 ammo. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAS1921AC Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 I've never owned an 07 although I've always kinda liked them. So I just use this if I need a little extra penetration. http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h266/TAS21AC/th_Model8.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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