Edited by ftc3906, 24 June 2004 - 05:40 PM.
Repro Spare Parts Boxes Invite Fraud
Posted 24 June 2004 - 04:33 PM
Posted 24 June 2004 - 04:38 PM
Posted 24 June 2004 - 05:51 PM
More power to Gordon!
Posted 24 June 2004 - 06:20 PM
But in the same breath, ron I'm with you on the get over it.
Posted 24 June 2004 - 07:25 PM
|QUOTE (ftc3906 @ Jun 24 2004, 04:33 PM)|
|TSMG Poobah Tracie Hill takes critical shot... Evidently the repros are so close to the original that fraud by subesquent resellers is invited.|
This is the same shallow logic the antis use to argue for gun control. Guns kill people, right? Reproduction boxes cause fraud. Not the crooks who peddle them to the ignorant.
Posted 24 June 2004 - 07:27 PM
I have not read Tracie's article but I agree with him there is too much opportunity for fraud.
I further stated on an earlier post that we have other reproduction TSMG items around, this just means that now those who are looking to buy a metal spare parts kit have to be careful now where they did not have to previously.
Posted 24 June 2004 - 07:40 PM
|QUOTE (kyle @ Jun 24 2004, 07:25 PM)|
|This is the same shallow logic the antis use to argue for gun control. Guns kill people, right? Reproduction boxes cause fraud. Not the crooks who peddle them to the ignorant.|
You beat me to it. Exactly my thought on the matter.
Posted 24 June 2004 - 07:41 PM
Since no one sells their originals anyway, GH has filled a niche for those that want their hard cases complete.
If I had the desire for the original look, I would buy a GH box, as I can't see spending (was it $4K the originals are supposed to be worth?) that kind of money for a stupid metal box unless I either had a hole in my head, had oodles of extra cash around that i couldn't possibly find anything else to spend it on, or i was buying it with the hope it would be saleable for $6K next year.
Hell, in forty years, they will all be *original*, and the people that could have told one from the other won't be around anyway, and who cares? I don't.
Posted 24 June 2004 - 08:06 PM
Fill me in, please. How much for the repro boxes and what is included in the box if anything?
The reproduction parts kit will go nice with my own hand made repro 1921 wood, my 1928 lower modified to Richardson's specs, my modified NOS M1A1 barrel that has fins cut on it like an early 1921, a P.K. machined 27A1 knob that now looks like a 1921, on my 1927A1 Kahr (Now a registered SBR). I do have one original part, an original Lyman sight, but so what!!! I also plan to make my own custom fit FBI case for the SBR 27A1.
I think you guys get the picture. Some of us can't get ahold of a 1921 Colt or 28 Savage. So in the mean time, its still a free country (unless Kerry get elected) and I think we can buy or sell anything that is legal.
I would never pass anything off as original that was not. One problem in the future will be, like someone has already said, nobody will know what is and what isn't "real".
Anyway, got to have a parts kit!!!
Posted 24 June 2004 - 08:18 PM
GET OVER IT!
Posted 24 June 2004 - 08:32 PM
Just my .02...so flame away if any of y'all like. I got my Nomex undies on.
Posted 24 June 2004 - 08:40 PM
Posted 24 June 2004 - 08:49 PM
Now Gordon makes a box and some think he is the bad guy. I don't remember anyone back then saying - anything against making them.
I am not sure WH lowered the price of the 21 or 28 !
Anyone with the money, and can afford a real box better be able to tell the original from the Gordon copy. Buts thats another day....
Posted 24 June 2004 - 09:08 PM
Have you hit the nail on the head.
I had forgotten about those pior posts last year.
If you remember, everyone was putting thier name on the list to buy
The only problem with Gordons box is that it is so dam good, it could be passed off as an original. I doubt it. It is not that he making hundreds, only a few and as I have said in the past, let the buyer beware. .
It is sad that a 14 year friendship is lost over a dam tin box.
I would have been willing to pay the bucks for an original but there
were none avaliable so what alternative is there.
Excellent and sensible posts guys
Nice to read.
Posted 25 June 2004 - 12:09 AM
Perhaps your characterization of the TSMG owner/collector/aficionado is not finished. There seems to be a predominant sentiment that this type of common sense is ultra vires. Those who use the jejune argument that this topic has already been "beaten like a dead horse" might also sympathize with Cllinton during his book tour when queried about ML. He would love to move on, but there has yet to be any satisfactory answer offered.
Posted 25 June 2004 - 01:27 AM
Hell, after all this anguishing, I may just forsake the altaiods box and buy a GH box just for the hell of it. Anything that causes this much controversy can't be all bad....
Posted 25 June 2004 - 04:34 AM
Several egos were dented however.
Posted 25 June 2004 - 07:01 AM