gijive Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Merry Ploughboy,I see. Your scenario is certainly plausible, but rather unlikely I would think. The gun in question would certainly warrant further examination, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLansky Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) i have looked down the receiver to the breach of a good number of 3 digit guns. in every instance, either the number or a digit or two was visible through the extractor slot or the tops or bottoms of the numbers were otherwise visible. the auction folks have been trying to be very helpful and have sent me almost every picture I have asked for. so, I do not believe that they didn't look or missed it. based on how precise the pictures were in response to my multiple inquiries (for example, they sent me at least 10 pictures of the bolt from every angle you could think of--and yes, the bolt is correct), if a number was there or even partially visible, I believe they would have reported as such. I have asked for a few pictures of the barrel face. if they can take them, I will report as to what they show. Edited April 10, 2016 by DLansky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLansky Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 I took a picture down the breach of 147--the numbers are not visible down the extractor slot. rather, the tops of the numbers are visible on the barrel face. one picture is regular size, the second is blown up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLansky Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I have got to learn to take better pictures. my fiance will be home later. we will retake and repost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda4 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Thanks Dave, My Colt does not have a number on the barrel since it was made much later (6077). I do have a numbered barrel and I might try to put it in a Richardson of PO dummy rec and see if with a mirror at 45 degrees and get a pic of it. I think Dave you already posted what I will see, Pics to follow when I find time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda4 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) Here are some composite pics that I think will answer whether or not a barrel number is visible through the ejection port or through the mag well. I used a Richardson Ultramax Dummy Receiver (Aluminum), and I have a Colt barrel with a number 849 (hard to read the 9) stamped on the breech end. Note that the number positioning is upright with the sight location - so the number, when installed since they were all indexed, will be at the top of the breech. I then tried to use a dental mirror, and had some luck taking the picture but it did not come out well. You could use this method to see the number - but why? The view through the ejection port and mag well show every possible edge of the barrel. The second set of pics shows the view through the ejection port. I rotated the barrel about 90 degrees every time, so yo can see when the numbers come into view and when they are not visible. The third set is the same as the second set but looking through the mag well, Again, the barrel was rotated 90 degrees or so each time. My contention is the number is visible through the mag well when the barrel is in the correct indexed position. It is not visible through the ejection port. I will always be visible with some sort of mirror and a little fussing around. It does lead to another question though - are the numbers always on the top edge of the barrel? Just curious, as I do not believe there is a location where it will not be visible through either opening. So... The barrel on the gun in question is not the original barrel to the gun. It may be an original Colt barrel though. Edited April 10, 2016 by giantpanda4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Giantpanda, Nice research. I guess that answers the question if the number is not visible on the gun in question. Thanks for posting, I learned something new, which is always good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLansky Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 the gun sold for 37.5 plus premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry Ploughboy Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 the gun sold for 37.5 plus premium. Thanks for the update. I had considered bidding up to $35K plus premium. I sort of feel good that I didn't waste the time and effort bidding. I hope whoever got it enjoys it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLansky Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 that was too much for me for a shooter, especially given the issues with the wood and the barrel. best wishes to the new owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawk64 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 How much was the buyers premium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLansky Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 17.5% unless paid by cash or wire transfer, in which case it is 15%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtommygunner Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 $43,125 @ 15% Is this a record for a shooter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocoabill Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 In case anyone is interested the 3 bare west hurly receivers went for 11, 12 and 13k the 11k one had a barrel, the others were bare. I had bids in on all of them but those prices are close to nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 What did the rest of the Free guns sell for? Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda4 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I was on the phone for the Westie recs. I thought the first went 12, and the rest were 12 and 13. Looking it up I see I was wrong, cocoabill is correct. My limit was 10K - stretch to 11 but I would have to be 12 to get in on the first one. So pass.But whoever bought the first one did well, IMHO. Add BP (for me it was quoted as 18% and add 2.5% for a CC, maybe that is because I was a phone bidder) and other fees that would total just over 2K, and a 1K parts kit, you got a shooter M1 Westie for about 14K. Saves you a couple thousand over what they have been selling for these days.Here is another westie complete from Cowans (innternet BP was 20%):https://www.proxibid.com/aspr/Auto-Ordnance-Thompson-Sub-Machine/29422779/LotDetail.asp?lid=29422779&rfpb=0#Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda4 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Ron, those go today and tomorrow.But I can answer it now... a LOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Thanks. I'll have to wait and see..... Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 584A M1 sold for $15k onsite. That would have been fun to have. It was only 3 off of my 1928 WH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 $15,000 plus 20% Buyers Premium ($3000) = $18,000...WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar15usa Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Colt 1921/1928 US Navy over stamp # 12489 sold for $32,500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 How do you find the price on a lot number that sold yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarvin Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 How do you find the price on a lot number that sold yesterday?Proxbid completed auctions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 How do you find the price on a lot number that sold yesterday?Proxbid completed auctionsThanks much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar15usa Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) Colt Model 1921 Serial Number "1057" sold for $42,500 BSA-Thompson Serial Number "2" Experimental Model 1929 sold for $95,000 Colt/Auto-Ordnance Class III/NFA Model 1927AC "Semi-Automatic" sold for $22,500 Savage Arms 1928A1 sold for $14,000 Edited May 1, 2016 by ar15usa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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