Burgernut Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 Imagin this kind of service if it was in the private sector, with the kind of money that's involved, only in government. Tax dollars at work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Dudley Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 36 minutes ago, Burgernut said: Imagin this kind of service if it was in the private sector, with the kind of money that's involved, only in government. Tax dollars at work. Yeah, just think if this was applied to counting ballots. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted November 12, 2022 Report Share Posted November 12, 2022 I'm up to almost nine months on an eFile. So much for shortened turnaround times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted November 13, 2022 Report Share Posted November 13, 2022 I think initially the first few months you were regarded as a beta tester to see if it worked so those were done quickly to get the system up and running. After that you went back into regular cue with all the rest of the submissions. A few weeks back I had an issue and when I contacted the examiner to fix the problem, I asked about getting a couple other transfers that have been in longer approved and was told they would not "jump the line" on the others and that I had to wait, even though it would have been faster to "batch" them on one background check, all coming from the same SOT to me. I'll stick to paper forms for now, since there appears to be no advantage to efiling unless you're an SOT, but even that's not going that well. I have a guy who can't find stuff in his account that's been shipped to him, so we ended up back to paper anyhow and he didn't want to invest the time to try and fix it, which I totally understand. As much as I'd like to buy a couple more suppressors. I can form 1 them faster than a form 4, and go out in shop and have it made and save several months. Unfortunately it costs a lot more than buying one, so I'm out of that market for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 This coming Saturday the 19th will be 12 months since they cashed the check on my Savage 1928A1 paper file form 4. Luckily the dealer I bought it from is a friend and has taken it out to 2 shoots over the last year so I could at least play with it a little. Maybe I will get it in time for Christmas? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebeeby Posted November 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 21 hours ago, Outsider said: This coming Saturday the 19th will be 12 months since they cashed the check on my Savage 1928A1 paper file form 4. Luckily the dealer I bought it from is a friend and has taken it out to 2 shoots over the last year so I could at least play with it a little. Maybe I will get it in time for Christmas? My dealer did the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Hi All, FWIW, Just got a pair of paper 4's back @ 1 year since they were mailed in. These were dealer to individual. I'll not complain based on other's comments. Grasshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Dudley Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 The last E-file for my son showed up today 12-12-2022. E-filed on 03-30-2022, local dealer to my son form 4. I guess with the E-file you do NOT get an actual "STAMP" just a PDF of the completed and approved form, is that correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted December 15, 2022 Report Share Posted December 15, 2022 9 months to the day on two Firm 4's. yea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted December 18, 2022 Report Share Posted December 18, 2022 Just got a couple e-file 4s today right at 8mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 EForm seems to be about 4 months quicker than paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brveagle Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just dropped a note to my state senator. I'm at six months. Not expecting him to do anything, but the squeaky wheel gets the grease right? One can only hope. ha Paper form 4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 I hope your senator is a right wing Republican. If not he may tell them to hold it up. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted December 29, 2022 Report Share Posted December 29, 2022 Well, Good news! My paperwork came in yesterday. Only 404 days after they cashed the check. New baby is already in the safe waiting for the weather to warm up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted December 29, 2022 Report Share Posted December 29, 2022 404 days? WTF! What did you buy, a submarine? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry Ploughboy Posted December 29, 2022 Report Share Posted December 29, 2022 On 11/9/2022 at 11:22 AM, Burgernut said: Imagine this kind of service if it was in the private sector, with the kind of money that's involved, only in government. Tax dollars at work. There is one well known (private sector) vendor of firearms and shooting accessories whose Customer Service Department is so bad, the company name has become a verb to signify poor customer service. Unfortunately, they are not alone. In the last several years, I've encountered a steady and sharp decline in the ability or willingness of a number of vendors to provide even a modicum of fast, reliable, customer service in all aspects of life. I guess they're waiting for artificial intelligence to take over. MHO, YMMV, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 8 hours ago, Rekraps said: 404 days? WTF! What did you buy, a submarine? It would probably be less time to get a sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 So enough is enough. I was going to get a B-52, but that's off the table now. I heard wait times are 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katanafred Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 Ughhh ... I entered ATF Form 4 purgatory this past November via eforms ... I applied as an indvidual instead of as a trust - I heard that saves a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbtf70 Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Sold a select fire M1A at the Phoenix SAR show the first week of December 2022. The buyer works as an air-evac pilot and can be relocated on short notice. He said his boss was also an NFA firearms enthusiast and had told him he could get an expedite on his form 4 because of his risk or relocation. The individual form 4 was signed by the buyer on 12-12-2022 and was submitted as a paper form with a check. He submitted the request for expedite when the check was cashed. I received an Email from the ATF examiner on 01-04-2023 requesting photos (via Email) showing overall length and barrel length. The completed form 4 arrived in the mail 01-17-2023 (postmarked 01-12-2023). The buyer probably has an active security clearance, which may have fixed the background check issues, but I have never seen a form 4 move this fast. Now if I can just find a reason to justify an expedite for my transfers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Sarge Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Form 4 submitted to ATF today (01/18/2023) via eForms system. I have a sinking feeling paper is quicker. My last submission in 2020 was paper, came back in 8 mos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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