RoscoeTurner Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 Recently there was a discussion here about Russian Thompson screwdrivers which are in fact Mosin screwdrivers, this link is to a discussion on a Ukranian forum from 2018 on the very same topic. Link can be translated with Chrome, contains a number of very interesting photos from a Russian Thompson manual. https://reibert.info/threads/otvertki.1051699/?fbclid=IwAR2L5cW55TWc5tAZTwTyW4TtRRqcAlKGy_FyYxUf7Khzf03mvDGFDu5J-ts#post-11550998 Link was provided by forum member swat12. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swat12 Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 There is a very interesting photo in this thread. It depicts a page from a Red Army book. Thompson and his number are listed in the "personal weapon" column. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 RoscoeTanner - Excellent thread. Thank you for sharing. swat12 - Thank you for the translation. I thought that may be the serial number. 527949 would most likely be S-527949, a very high numbered Savage Arms Thompson gun. I used several pictures in my Amateur's Guide book from the 1942 Russian manual shown at the bottom of the web site. This is the 4 cell pouch I would like to have for my collection. Has anyone ever seen one of these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swat12 Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 yes, most likely the letter "s" is missing there. To be honest, I don't speak English well. Google translator did not translate correctly. this should be understood as an identity card of a Red Army soldier. As for the pouch from Thompson's Russian manual, I've never seen it. Magazines for 20, 30 and 50 rounds were supplied to the USSR. But I saw pouches only 5x20 for M3. as far as I understand, the Russian instruction was made by translating and compiling two American instructions, and the photos were simply copied without taking into account the real set of supplies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted November 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, swat12 said: yes, most likely the letter "s" is missing there. To be honest, I don't speak English well. Google translator did not translate correctly. this should be understood as an identity card of a Red Army soldier. As for the pouch from Thompson's Russian manual, I've never seen it. Magazines for 20, 30 and 50 rounds were supplied to the USSR. But I saw pouches only 5x20 for M3. as far as I understand, the Russian instruction was made by translating and compiling two American instructions, and the photos were simply copied without taking into account the real set of supplies. Thanks for sharing that. Soviet use of the Thompson is something that deserves more research for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffen Und Bier Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 Could the pouch be a five cell pouch that has had one of the cells cut off? A buddy gave me one of those screw drivers. I need to find it now knowing I can use it for my Thompson 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 There is a dealer in the UK that has some of those screwdrivers in stock, three different versions, at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APEXgunparts Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) Russian screw drivers? APEX Gun parts has received the ones shown with Mosin material and also Mauser material that originated in the former USSR. The Communist's were not fancy, lots of weapon tools, slings and pouches were used interchangeably across firearms types. The Communist Russians loved their "Gangster Guns" and asked the USA for as many as they could provide. No need to buy tools out of Europe! Mosin Nagant Takedown Tool Mosin Nagant Cleaning Kit Tool Russian Mauser Grease Bottle Same outfit that brought many Thompson kits out of Russia also imported these pouches and Thompson crates. Thompson SMG 5 (20rd) Magazine Divided Pouch, Canvas Thompson 1928A1 Wood Storage Crate, T1, OD Green Richard Edited February 15, 2023 by APEXgunparts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, APEXgunparts said: Russian screw drivers? APEX Gun parts has received the ones shown with Mosin material and also Mauser material that originated in the former USSR. The Communist's were not fancy, lots of weapon tools, slings and pouches were used interchangeably across firearms types. The Communist Russians loved their "Gangster Guns" and asked the USA for as many as they could provide. No need to buy tools out of Europe! Mosin Nagant Takedown Tool Mosin Nagant Cleaning Kit Tool Russian Mauser Grease Bottle Same outfit that brought many Thompson kits out of Russia also imported these pouches and Thompson crates. Thompson SMG 5 (20rd) Magazine Divided Pouch, Canvas Thompson 1928A1 Wood Storage Crate, T1, OD Green Richard I have two of those Thompson wooden storage crates at home, obtained them from an arms dealer in the UK who imported a lot of Thompsons from the Ukraine back in the early 2000's. Also have some AK and RPK wooden crates which he received from Bosnia back in the mid 2000's, containing a large stock of kit in them. They are great for storing kit, and the dealer was just burning them, as they took up too much storage, so he was happy to let me have some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoda Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Just imagine the photos of the current war in Ukraine if they had kept and used those Thompsons. We've seen the Mosins in use there but a Thompson would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1957 Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 The four cell pouch is most likely the pouch for the UD M-42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 On 2/15/2023 at 1:17 PM, APEXgunparts said: Russian screw drivers? APEX Gun parts has received the ones shown with Mosin material and also Mauser material that originated in the former USSR. The Communist's were not fancy, lots of weapon tools, slings and pouches were used interchangeably across firearms types. The Communist Russians loved their "Gangster Guns" and asked the USA for as many as they could provide. No need to buy tools out of Europe! Mosin Nagant Takedown Tool Mosin Nagant Cleaning Kit Tool Russian Mauser Grease Bottle Same outfit that brought many Thompson kits out of Russia also imported these pouches and Thompson crates. Thompson SMG 5 (20rd) Magazine Divided Pouch, Canvas Thompson 1928A1 Wood Storage Crate, T1, OD Green Richard Man, you are on it! Wow, great research and links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APEXgunparts Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 21 hours ago, skoda said: Just imagine the photos of the current war in Ukraine if they had kept and used those Thompsons. We've seen the Mosins in use there but a Thompson would be interesting. The Yugoslavians had MP40's and Thompson's in use at the start of the Balkans conflict. Somewhere I read the make-up of the squads that patrolled the border, and each one had a Thompson gunner. The US provide arms to Tito up until the late 1950's, Browning's, Thompsons, etc.. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted February 18, 2023 Report Share Posted February 18, 2023 15 hours ago, APEXgunparts said: The Yugoslavians had MP40's and Thompson's in use at the start of the Balkans conflict. Somewhere I read the make-up of the squads that patrolled the border, and each one had a Thompson gunner. The US provide arms to Tito up until the late 1950's, Browning's, Thompsons, etc.. Richard M1 / M1A1 Thompsons in Yugoslavia, from the 1950's, could be border guards? and from the Balkan wars in the 1990's Have a good weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) Here is also a photo I took of an M1A1 in the Spanish Foreign Legion (Legión Española) Museum in Ceuta. This M1A1 was recovered by the Legión Española while on service in the Balkans, as was the Romanian AKS, (PM Model 65), below the M1A1, which funny enough has the wrong kind of front vertical pistol grip. The PM Model 65's are usually fitted with a vertical grip that is angled slightly towards the rear, which enables the oval-shaped cut out portion of the buttplate to fold up over the pistol grip, as shown in the example below from my collection. Edited February 19, 2023 by rpbcps Typo... yet again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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