mohawk64 Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 I have been looking for an original C drum for a while. Apparently I am always a day late. If anyone has one for sale I would be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black River Militaria CII Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 How much do you expect to spend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawk64 Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 More than I want to im sure. ( Joke ) I know it depends on condition. Refinished - matched # or mismatched etc. So I guess I just have to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 they are crazy $$....better to buy a Taiwan drum for $450.....a drum you wont feel bad using and enjoying...and looks the same to anyone who is not a true thompson collector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Numrich gun parts sells the repro drums huggy is talking about $398 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Neil Smith had an original C drum at OGCA last weekend and IIRC the price was $8500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 buy a NIB Mac 11/mags/ammo or a C drum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawk64 Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streed2 Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 I have a ex+ condition Colt C Drum with Russco pouch also ex. Numbers matching, nickel rotor. No dents. Be prepared to spend between $10.5K to $12K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 streed2, Be prepared to wait awhile to sell it at that price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 A year from now you'll wish you have bought it for 12K. LOL Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelkih Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 I have an original C drum, so I'm not trying to down price them. With that said, where the heck are they selling for $12,000? LOL. I have seen plenty sell for around half that price or a couple thousand more for very mint, original, and matching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob241 Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 Orginal C drum #3470 listed on GB at this time, anyone interested, not mine. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/768028143 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 bob241, Just as an FYI, I don't believe it is necessary to qualify every Internet Thompson related sale you post as "not mine". With all the links you have posted to Thompson items on this Board over the past few years, I don't think anyone had the illusion that all these items were from your collection:-) If they had been, you must have had the most extensive Thompson collection in existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) I have always wondered how long it took to cause the 45ACP cases to develop the wear pattern on the drum body of the C drum in the GB auction? https://www.gunbroke.../item/768028143 Any guesses if they left the drum wound or unwound with the 100 rounds in the drum? I have considered trying to get that wear pattern on one of my Taiwan drums by leaving it ride around in the trunk for a year. Just don't know if the drum should be wound or unwound? Edited May 3, 2018 by Bridgeport28A1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 I have always wondered how long it took to cause the 45ACP cases to develop the wear pattern on the drum body of the C drum in the GB auction? https://www.gunbroke.../item/768028143 Any guesses if they left the drum wound or unwound with the 100 rounds in the drum? I have considered trying to get that wear pattern on one of my Taiwan drums by leaving it ride around in the trunk for a year. Just don't know if the drum should be wound or unwound? Probably wouldn't matter. Only the first section is under tension in a wound drum. A good source of vibration would be key. I imagine enough firing would also do it. More fun too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black River Militaria CII Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 Wedged the seller that his drum actually did have a dent inflicted from the outside of the cover at the inner end of the cartidge scroll. He changed his ad to include that.Nice drum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelkih Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 Looks like it sold for 7k. What I figured. Nice drum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 At one time gun for $5,000.00 drum for a $1,000.00, Now guns for $40,000 And Drums for $10,000 And I am the nut case right. It really has gone over the top and off the deep end. And when it was $6,000.00 collectors and dealers said can you do better.Will it one day be a $100 grand? nope nobody will be left to step up to buy. Save this one for the future.Colt21aRon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelkih Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 At one time gun for $5,000.00 drum for a $1,000.00, Now guns for $40,000 And Drums for $10,000 And I am the nut case right. It really has gone over the top and off the deep end. And when it was $6,000.00 collectors and dealers said can you do better.Will it one day be a $100 grand? nope nobody will be left to step up to buy. Save this one for the future.Colt21aRon Yes, everything is getting more expensive. Guns, cars, houses, gold, etc. $100,000 is not far away for a mint 1921. There are only so many around, and more buyers everyday. No surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSU Tiger Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) At one time gun for $5,000.00 drum for a $1,000.00, Now guns for $40,000 And Drums for $10,000 And I am the nut case right. It really has gone over the top and off the deep end. And when it was $6,000.00 collectors and dealers said can you do better.Will it one day be a $100 grand? nope nobody will be left to step up to buy. Save this one for the future.Colt21aRon Yes, everything is getting more expensive. Guns, cars, houses, gold, etc. $100,000 is not far away for a mint 1921. There are only so many around, and more buyers everyday. No surprise. You're exactly right. The $325 M-1 rifle of 1980 is now $1200+. Of course, they're not subject to being limited in circulation. Sellers will charge what the market will bear and someone will gladly pay it. It isn't just the guns and drums, 30 rd. box mags are up there too. Edited May 8, 2018 by LSU Tiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Yes many today can still buy that $1200 Garand. Increase 300% but the Thompson at over 750% not so much. My house at $250 grand in 1988 is at 250% still does not touch the Thompson. And most cars devalue. As well as furniture and sport items. Even Gold did not take a over 800% jump.it would be close but maybe not exact. We are the ones who decide to pay what people ask. and if we are foolish enough or desire it enough to do it why not. Looking back now I wish I did not buy the over forty cars I did, and just had that cash laying around. Heck I could have another ten Thompsons. And jacked them up to today's standard..... I just don't feel there are a thousand guys out there with forty grand burning holes in pockets to Buy Thompsons.Sure a few with bucks. But that was always the same standard back when also.Why do you think I bought so many. because others did not want to spend the money back when. Also not sure too many had built $250 grand houses back in the 80's and drove multiple $30 grand cars. And buying Tommys at 5 grand each. But hey everybody has got to be doing something. I am glad the race is over I won. And can still enjoy a $1200 buck Garand. And a $1500 buck AR-15.Most have never even enjoyed ten of anything. "So count the blessing you have been bestowed for but a instant They can be gone." from JOEY BAG OF DOUGHNUTS. Before the mob got him. Wink!Colt21a Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) At one time gun for $5,000.00 drum for a $1,000.00, Now guns for $40,000 And Drums for $10,000 And I am the nut case right. It really has gone over the top and off the deep end. And when it was $6,000.00 collectors and dealers said can you do better.Will it one day be a $100 grand? nope nobody will be left to step up to buy. Save this one for the future.Colt21aRon every year more NFA gets destroyed...in 100 years will we be at 100,000 of them?....possibly?....most will be shot to hell and rebuilt several times by them as the # dwindles i have no doubts in 100 years a mac 10 will be $100,000.....what will change is the # people own....where as YOU SIR own 40+! those days are over now...very few new buyers can own 40-100 machine guns.....5-10 may be somewhat norm for the new hard core guys......many own 1-2....in the future it will be 1.....and a rich person only.....the average guy days are almost over....once mac's hit $10,000 which wont be long as the prices have risen $2-3k in the past couple years...average guys dont pay $10k for a gun....few wife's would accept it some day those beautiful thompsons wont be shot anymore...they will behind glass at a millionaires house...maybe taken out once a year i enjoy my guns 1-2x a month.....the days of people shooting 10,000 rounds a year out their guns will eventually dwindle... Edited May 8, 2018 by huggytree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Huggy you are right on the money have two buddies in town who own mint matching MP-40'S.I offered them $20 grand each. a weak moment on my part. And they turned me down...Said they will pass with them which I believe. And they bought postie for $1500 to shoot now. Another has a minty original matched MP-38 for $50 grand. I said I will wait till Tor gets the MP-38 semis in and post sample one. They are now getting like expensive artwork.. Boring. When I had my 50 cal belt feeds it was a buck a round per outing and a grand or so down range. now today 5 grand F/ that. Even a fool with some bucks thinks twice about that. And don't let anybody tell me knob creek is so crowded and ammo flies like crazy like the 80's and 90's... Bull crap, been there. And in a hundred years the MAC-10 will be the black powder of its time. And that little old Colt Walker #1022or #1044 whatever it was will be $20 million.. enjoy the MP-40 its later than we ever imagined. Colt21aRon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black River Militaria CII Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Wah, wah ,wah, so what’s new and who cares. The “average” guy is hardly an example of a dedicated MG buyer and owner and is in no different position than the overwhelming majority of people who can’t buy something that they wish to own because it is too expensive. Where does it say that eveyone should be able to own anything that they desire? Only a very few are able to, so lucky them. MGs were way too expensive for me when I acquired my first legal MG and always were more than I could afford every time I bought one especially when I was paying the transfer tax when it was twice and more of the cost of the MG.I was dedicated to owning them, willing to sacrifice, simple as that and all I heard from my gun friends was that I was a fool to pay the gov’t tax, they would shortly be completely outlawed, they waste ammo, they are just for killing, I would never be able to sell them, they are junk, they are way too expensive, yak yak, yak. Pessimists all and had no interest in MGs so got their jollies bashing them and their owners.I have educated and assisted five twenty-five to thirty-five year old fellows in getting their CIIs in VT in the last four years. I know, these are competition for me, but there is no way they can compete with me since I have so many years of specialty experience, but they are in the game, enthusiastic and dedicated. I am more than pleased to help them. I have a dozen or more customers in that age range, some now working on the purchase of their third or more transferable MG. Excited and addicted young guys and a number of young females are showing up at the 100 position MG shoot in northern VT, now in its tenth year. There are shoots all over the country now well attended by younger people who often have relatives with MGs and will more than likely inherit them. They don’t complain about the prices of MGs any more than I did and for them the prices are just a normal cost of participation since they want in. Same for ammo. Many owners don’t shoot their MGs anyway and that is nothing new. I know plenty of them. Anyone who follows the big auction houses and attends auctions can watch guys in their low thirties and up buying high end collector handguns, rifles along with MGs and a myriad of insanely expensive collector firearms. There is a reason why the former James Julia Auctions would gross $15 million at at an average gun auction where the MG prices are far below many of the Title I collectibles. And then Julia will still have thousands of guns left to sell. None of these guns will be shot and that is of absolutley no importance to the buyers. So what if MG owners don’t shoot their guns? So what if a Colt ‘21 reaches $100k? No one is entitled to own one or any MG or a Colt Dragoon or a ColtWalker in pristine condition or any orher high end firearm.If you guys want to own more MGs, pony up. I recently bought a high end MG that I have wanted for thirty years and am happy as any new MG owner! All the gloom and doom is sounding like a bunch of liberals! Rant mode off..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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