reconbob Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f392/reconbob/IMG_6930_zps2rfzh68k.jpg A customer who owns a brass foundry has requested that I make him a smallquantity of brass M1928A1 receivers. This person has the ability to make brassbars of the same size and length that we use (1 1/2" x 2" x 13 3/8") so they canbe run thru the standard production process. I believe if I asked him for extra pieces he would be able to supply them. I do not know the cost but I would guess that using brass would add at least $100 tothe price of the receiver. The brass receivers would have the identical machining as the steel receiversand have available the options pertaining to extra machine work and engraving.The surfaces of the receiver would not be blanchard ground because when blanchardgrinding the pieces are held on a large rotating plate which is magnetic. Of course,brassis not magnetic so the surfaces would be milled instead of ground but we can puton a high finish. If you might be interested in a brass M1921/28 or M1/M1A1 receiver send me anemail and when I find out the brass will cost I can email you a quote. As a guideline the basic receiver we make is $345 and there are extra machiningand engraving options that can add as much as $300-$350 to price of a"no frills" receiver. I do not believe a brass receiver would affect the function of the blish lock becausethe bronze/steel surfaces are in the bolt, H-lock, and actuator, not the receiver. Bob/Philly O Philaord@aol.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelkih Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 That's cool. Interested in seeing other people's interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadycon Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 A matching brass lower would make a great conversation piece! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadycon Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) doubled again! Edited May 27, 2016 by shadycon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geefal Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Not putting this down a bit. Serious question though. Why? Is this for dummy guns or ???? Thanks David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjong-ni Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 It's not unprecedented. Can't wait to see the P/O version....Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMG28 Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 The example shown above is the Turkish version. It would be really cool to be able to duplicate their creations. Now all I have to find is olive wood for the stocks....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Do we know how many of the Turkish guns were made? Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndArmored Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Would firing one constitute a Turkey shoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black River Militaria CII Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Is that a brass plated gun? Have had four chrome plated, one nickel plated Thompson through my shop. Have an MP40 kit that is completely copper plated. What markings are on the brass gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black River Militaria CII Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 >I do not believe a brass receiver would affect the function of the blish lock becausethe bronze/steel surfaces are in the bolt, H-lock, and actuator, not the receiver.< The ears of the lock cam into the sides of the receiver, so in a brass/bronze receiver there would be bronze-to-brass contact on these cam surfaces. Blish locks seem to be incredibly durable where the bronze ears run on steel surfaces, so any bronze-to-brass contact wouldn't be an issue in my view. A brass Thompson would be fun to have..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 question, what percentage are they milled out?? 80% as those obtainable today or fully milled to build a dummy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjong-ni Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Photos from the Site here. The parts do look like solid brass. Must have worked fine....Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin601 Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) Never saw a Brass 28 Turk version, only a M1 version, maybe the lock caused some concern back then too. Edited June 3, 2016 by Paladin601 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMGguy Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 No interest in a purchase on my part, but this is intriguing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted June 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 So far there is one person interested in having a receiver made - an M1. I just found out that theextra cost for the brass would be $125. The guy that supplied the brass wants a couple, and maybea 3rd. So, not a big hit but since the brass can be run thru the existing set-ups I will try to have a coupleof pieces ready to go should anyone want one in the future. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R67 Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Bob, The market for such an item is incredibly small. No one is going to buy their first or second receiver made of brass. Most people are building dummies that are as close to the original as they can get. So the market is limited to advanced TSMG collectors who have the money and want to buy an oddity. The fact that a brass receiver will cost MORE than a legit steel one just puts the nail in the coffin. My 2 cents. That said: these receivers are very cool indeed, your abilities to craft these pieces always makes me smile.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Bob, The market for such an item is incredibly small. No one is going to buy their first or second receiver made of brass. Most people are building dummies that are as close to the original as they can get. So the market is limited to advanced TSMG collectors who have the money and want to buy an oddity. The fact that a brass receiver will cost MORE than a legit steel one just puts the nail in the coffin. My 2 cents. That said: these receivers are very cool indeed, your abilities to craft these pieces always makes me smile....The higher cost is unavoidable. Brass, having a high copper content, is a more expensive material no matter what you do to it. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted June 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I agree - the market is small. I would never have persued this on my own butWhen another party offered to supply the material I followed through. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylta Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I'm waiting for Buzz to chime in regarding the inherent weakness of brass vs forged steel?Darryl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerslayer Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 You used to have to go sit in the corner for comments like that.... Bob, they gonna be working post samples or just dummy guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerslayer Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 How about a brass actuator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylta Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Dan,I was giving homage to our resident P.E. Buzz, it's hard to argue with facts.Darryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda4 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Dan, where in heck did you get that??? Scary!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerslayer Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I don't know its origin. No markings on it. But a guy sent it to me to look at when I was doing some work on a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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