bob241 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 New listing for a FBI case on GB, listed as orginial?, starting bid $750.00 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=501549081 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Actually, it's the Police style TSMG case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLansky Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 current bid is 1500 and reserve not met. strong bid considering condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brazos609 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 current bid is 1500 and reserve not met. strong bid considering condition. That strong bid looks like your bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 That police case looks pretty rough. I didn't see any makers sticker in the bad pictures. I much rather have my Robert Necessary case. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLansky Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 placed on behalf of a cutomer. told him I thought it was high based on condition, but he wanted to make a run at it.to not even hit the reserve is a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wv1928 Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 I think I will keep my Mr.Fox case.. Looks a whole lot better and much prettier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK2112 Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 do you restore it....or leave it alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I am a little surprised that so many of you consider this a "rough" case. The pictures suck and that is hurting the seller, but I do not see any major damage or very heavy wear. It's possible the barrel block is loose but I do not consider the condition to be a show stopper. To me it does not look too bad for a case that was beat around a PD or squad car with no regard for the future collectors. Ps I do not have a dog in this fight but to me the price seems fair as its supposedly close to reserve (assuming better pictures don't reveal any damage my poor eyes don't see). I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dog 1110 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 What have FBI and Police cases sold for recently?I know prices will vary with the condition of the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt Chopper Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=502556068 Relisted with an $1800. "Buy Now" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brazos609 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 The seller added "The reserve is not that much higher than the bid" on the 18th when the bid was $1500 then on the 20th another bidder put it up to $1655, raising it over 10%. I would have thought the reserve would have been lower based on his comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) The seller added "The reserve is not that much higher than the bid" on the 18th when the bid was $1500 then on the 20th another bidder put it up to $1655, raising it over 10%. I would have thought the reserve would have been lower based on his comment.I was thinking the same thing😀. I was surprised to see that 16% is "not that much higher". I was under the impression these usually sold for 2-3k depending on condition. Ones with severe damage, missing handles and straps, less. Autoweapons has three if anyone wants to email him and see what top end of pricing is 😵 Ron Edited August 21, 2015 by ron_brock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 The Police style cases are rarer than the FBI style cases. That alone makes this an attractive item. My own personal period original case happens to be a Police style. I have never seen a Police style with a makers sticker and I have seen a few examples. So no concerns there. Police case examples I have closely inspected have had the drum on the right. Because of that they are not able to hold a drum and a metal spare parts kit on the lid at the same time, was that a design error??? So food for thoughtOn the FBI style with the stock on the right side, the height of the case did not matter to fitting in a metal spare parts kit.On the Police style with the drum on the right, the same height interferes with the metal spare parts kit above it on the lid, look at the height on the drum imprint in the velvet lining.It has been a long time since I tried that, if I remember correctly this was tried with an original metal spare parts kit and I certainly was not going to damage that. Gordon's metal spare parts kits were not available when I tried that. Of course one could also take careful measurements!! Have to admit I have not done that! This auction Police case example is different with the drum on the left and I wonder if the maker finally wised up to the idea that they did not function correctly or is it a different maker. The interior is a different color than mine, I am assuming it is from the early period, pre WWII. This auction Police case, seems to be a bit wider for some reason. Look at the drum slot on the left side, it has it's own divider on both sides of it, which is not apparent on my version. Odd and without taking actual measurements hard to do anything other than comment on the observation. So I have commented on four things that I "think" make this rare.Police caseDrum on leftDifferent interior color, comparing to the other Police cases I have observedWidth, different than all other Police cases based on what I see in the pictures. Personal opinionThis auction item would be a nice acquisition for someone looking for an original period case. If I had not just acquired another I would be seriously considering this. disclaimerI have no dog in this huntIt is not mine (auction item)Your mileage may varyI stayed at a Holiday Inn in the last 6 monthsYour opinion matters just as much as anyone else including mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt Chopper Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Looks like it found a new home ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brazos609 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Does the new owner leave it as is or have it restored? Unrestored is one thing, but there comes a point when unrestored looks like crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I would vote leave it alone. It does not look too bad to me. Once restored, it will never be original again. If it had already been restored and looked bad, then restore again. If the new owner is on the boards, please contact me as I would like to compare cases with better photos. This one looks identical to mine. Here's two quick phone photos. I can get some better ones later if anyone is interested. Mine's "rough" too, but I love it. 😀Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocapuff1 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Original is original, nothing better. Yes with age everything gets rough looking and older looking. That is what makes it what it is... Leave it all original, unless your getting a piece so rough that there is no other option. It's basically like re-bluing a Colt 21 Thompson that is rough... Much better to leave it original, unless your are so talented that you can pull off that original Carbonia blu finish. You have to appreciate the road it has been on in it's life. Everyone likes "NOS" stuff, but the stuff that has really been used has the "stories" we will never know. We are all perfectionists at heart, I believe, who enjoy this particular part of history, but we have to understand that 80 years old + means old. :-). I really like it and I thought about bidding and I can't even own a real 1921 Thompson in my state. Someday maybe in the future; it's not the money it's the laws, though I feel prices are inflated.... Enjoy and congratulations to whoever purchased it! Sincerely, Keith Edited August 22, 2015 by Kocapuff1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Another board member shared his Police style case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aut-ord-co Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Interesting case. Looks like it was on display for a while with the bleached out lining around the contents. Thanks for posting, Sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt Chopper Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 What is the extra storage snap in the lid ? I will guess for a shot shell mag ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 It said it was sold, but has been relisted. Some dude named SHARKEY is a high bidder. Wonder if the seller will contact him for the with the reserve? SHARKEY only has a 6A+ rating so must be a good person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 What is the extra storage snap in the lid ? I will guess for a shot shell mag ?I wondered the same thing. Your guess makes sense if it fits. That would be cool!! Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin601 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 I don't think Restoration would be a good word for this, maybe what they now call arrested decay, is the new buzz word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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