ebeeby Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 Newbie question: Maybe an old topic, or even a debate....What is the consensus on using grease or oil for lubricating an M1A1? And which oil or grease? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 My 28 Navy runs on Mobile 1 synthetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 Both. I use Lubriplate on the bolt and recoil spring then add a little bit of CLP. I use CLP to lube the lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiz Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 Here is the recommendation I got from PK when he did my Tommy. "It may sound contrary, but friction is your friend when it comes to delayed blowback systems, to a point. Unfortunately, we pretty well ran ourselves out of Sperm Wales some time ago, but we have made strides in refining petroleum." "I do not recommend grease, except for a small dab on the hammer where it contacts the receiver. I also do not recommend any of the ‘super lube’ oils. Whale oil was a simple as it got in the day, plain light mineral oil is as close as you get today, such as Hoppes Gun Oil." PK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 Interesting.. Friction slows the rate of fire.. I've always heard that Thompson shoot better faster. No idea what's the best, but on 1928, I usually wipe CLP after cleaning, and use Geissele's Go Juice at the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 Still using LSA for mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 I've always used CLP (Breakfree) or my own home-made Red CLP.I don't hold back either....lots of oil as it prevents wear and makes it easy to wipe out grime, carbon and unburned powder and residue, then add a bit more and keep shooting.I keep it in a spray bottle. You get used to the taste as excess sprays out the back of the pilot buffer hole. My homemade stuff is a big recipe I gleaned from American Gunsmith......2 gallons low odor kerosene, 2 gallons low odor mineral spirits, 3 quarts Marvel Mystery oil and one quart of Rislone engine treatment. The stuff is amazing at preventing rust and I keep three gallons in a five gallon pail with a gamma seal lid and a big metal pasta basket in the bottom. Dump the other two gallons in the mineral spirits jugs to add as filler as you use it up) I use it to clean guns, dunk and soak parts and even rinse my drums out with it. Just clean and let the parts drain a bit on a piece of cardboard, then wipe the outside dry and assemble. The stuff works as good as Military CLP but a bit better in cold weather as it is watery-thin. protects better than Ed's Red for rust too.I use a battery filler bulb to suck it up and squirt it here and there as it won't eat the red rubber bulb on that tool. Also a parts brush, toothbrush and a couple cleaning rods with 9mm on one, .45 brush on th3e other.....just keep it all in the bucket. In-between bucket cleanings I just use regular CLP (surplus bought by the gallon) in a spray bottle. Note: Have gone to the range a couple times and forgot my oil bottle.....used 0W20 or 5W20 Mobil 1 with great success. Even used 0W20 off the dipstick once to lube up my STen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorcar Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 Here is the recommendation I got from PK when he did my Tommy. x2 what he said! Almost an exact quote from what PK told me too, CLP makes it run like a sewing machine and easy cleanup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 I go to the gas station and get some old axle grease and mix withbeach sand - 50% grease - 50% sand. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiz Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 I go to the gas station and get some old axle grease and mix withbeach sand - 50% grease - 50% sand. BobPerfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 Wait. Why sand? Wouldnt that act like sandpaper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimFromFL Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 The general rule is to use grease where metal on metal.Before switching to grease, I used to oil the Thompson so much when you did a mag dump my glasses would be full of splatter.This is probably why you see all the gangsters firing the Thompson from their hip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 I was told to shoot em wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMGguy Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 Wait. Why sand? Wouldnt that act like sandpaper? Bob gotcha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vettom Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 I make my synthetic sperm whale oil runs great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebeeby Posted February 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Thanks for all the replies.Who is PK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiz Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Thanks for all the replies.Who is PK?PK is Paul Krogh of Diamond K Machining. He is, arguably the undisputed expert gunsmith with regard to all things Thompson. The waiting list for his work is over 5 years in length, and from what I understand he is no longer adding to the waiting list. There are several other excellent gunsmiths who do Thompson work but PK is kind of the Thompson Guru. His work seems to be a mixture of expert knowledge, exceptional skill, and magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Actually PK is retiring 😪 He is member on this site as PK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiz Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) Actually PK is retiring He is member on this site as PK.See PK's post of 11Jan22. He did not say he was retiring just slowing down his operation and his queue was much too large continue accepting full scale work on Thompsons which led to people assuming he was retiring. I am sure that some day he will retire completely but not yet. Edited February 21, 2022 by Tiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 He stopped accepting work over a year ago. He even sent messages he wouldn't be doing some people who was on the queue.. It sounded like he was going to stop. I'll have to look at the post again, but that was my understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in PA Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 I use a light brush with LSA or CLP oil followed by a little white grease on the bolt wear points on the M-1. When running Merle's 22 kit just oil worked best for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxfaxdude Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Thanks for all the replies.Who is PK?PK is Paul Krogh of Diamond K Machining. He is, arguably the undisputed expert gunsmith with regard to all things Thompson. The waiting list for his work is over 5 years in length, and from what I understand he is no longer adding to the waiting list. There are several other excellent gunsmiths who do Thompson work but PK is kind of the Thompson Guru. His work seems to be a mixture of expert knowledge, exceptional skill, and magic.PK does amazing work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmagee1917 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 I always go by the simple guide of " If it slides, grease. If it rotates, oil. " I have to have a knowledgeable reason to vary from this.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 With an M1 or M1A1, the buffer pilot/guide rod assy. does not block the spray of oil like it does on a '28. If you run the bolt wet you get a face full until it pumps out. Mostly grease and just a very little bit of oil on the bolt works best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebeeby Posted February 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 For the grease advocates, what points/areas do you grease? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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