Maxi5566 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) Hello,I am looking to buy a Thompson 1928A1 deactivated in good condition. From what I read on the internet, the markings are period/manufacturer (savage) correct. The Cutts compensator seems also to be correct.I read that the actuator should be checkered instead of shooth, which seems to indicate this one is not correct? I also think these 1928A1 were issued with 20 rounds magazine?Could you help me determine if this SMG is mostly genuine or if it is a Frankenstein?Thanks Edited February 28, 2019 by Maxi5566 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 I am curious why you would cover up the serial number of a deac. That said, I think this Savage Arms 1928A1 looks pretty good. While I have only studied the early Savage Thompsons in detail, I believe the knurling on the actuators was deleted late in production at Savage Arms. An actuator is easily replaced. A more important question: does the receiver and frame serial numbers match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxi5566 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 I am curious why you would cover up the serial number of a deac. That said, I think this Savage Arms 1928A1 looks pretty good. While I have only studied the early Savage Thompsons in detail, I believe the knurling on the actuators was deleted late in production at Savage Arms. An actuator is easily replaced. A more important question: does the receiver and frame serial numbers match?Yes it matches. I have not seen it in person, but the seller says it’s a matching number thompson. It is an old deactivation (cock and click) and can be stripped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 I understand the older deacs are highly sought after. Again, it looks good to me. I would not worry about the actuator, especially if it is a high serial numbered gun. Perhaps others Forum members will chime in. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyDixon Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 where is this gun located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimcrew Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) As was said, a knurled Savage actuator can easily be found. The rest looks really good, though without seeing the Stamps on the individual parts there is no way to tell for sure that it is all Savage. I'm not sure what the value of a deac is, and how much non-matching parts affect value, but I'd be very happy to own that piece. Edited February 28, 2019 by Rimcrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonteenager Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 What website cause I'm looking for deactivated/ dummy's also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper28 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 The receiver looks intact. How is it dewatted? Is it a registered dewat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1957 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 PM sent. Savage parts are very easy to find. Transfer can be complicated. Been down that road before. I can offer some advice as you travel down that road as well. Particularly if this is your first rodeo. CongratsSandman1957 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMGguy Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Without knowing the serial number there's no way to tell what's correct and what isn't. The good news is that the actuator, safety, and pivot look correct for a M1928A1 with a serial number greater than about 330,000. Looks like the original surface Blanchard milling on the exterior of the frame and receiver are also intact. It's a nice piece, dewat or not. Knowing where you are will also get you better answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) where is this gun located? Exactly.Pretty sure this is not in the US. Would prefer to be wrong, as this would be a fine reactivation candidate.Hoping OP will provide more information. Hint: look at the crossed swords proof markings to the left of "safe" and "No."Then: look at page 150 of "Great Britain - The Tommy Gun Story". Edited February 28, 2019 by mnshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Without knowing the serial number there's no way to tell what's correct and what isn't. The good news is that the actuator, safety, and pivot look correct for a M1928A1 with a serial number greater than about 330,000. Looks like the original surface Blanchard milling on the exterior of the frame and receiver are also intact. It's a nice piece, dewat or not. Knowing where you are will also get you better answers. I suspect this gun is in Canada considering the rivet in the magazine. It looks like a good example of a 28A1 to me. If it is and Maxi5566 wants to send me a PM I might be able to give him some Canadian perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxi5566 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Without knowing the serial number there's no way to tell what's correct and what isn't. The good news is that the actuator, safety, and pivot look correct for a M1928A1 with a serial number greater than about 330,000. Looks like the original surface Blanchard milling on the exterior of the frame and receiver are also intact. It's a nice piece, dewat or not. Knowing where you are will also get you better answers. I suspect this gun is in Canada considering the rivet in the magazine. It looks like a good example of a 28A1 to me. If it is and Maxi5566 wants to send me a PM I might be able to give him some Canadian perspective.You sir are correct. The gun is in Canada. For those wondering, this is a local sale, the gun is not advertised online. I will ask the seller for the first 3-4 digits of the serial number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Without knowing the serial number there's no way to tell what's correct and what isn't. The good news is that the actuator, safety, and pivot look correct for a M1928A1 with a serial number greater than about 330,000. Looks like the original surface Blanchard milling on the exterior of the frame and receiver are also intact. It's a nice piece, dewat or not. Knowing where you are will also get you better answers. I suspect this gun is in Canada considering the rivet in the magazine. It looks like a good example of a 28A1 to me. If it is and Maxi5566 wants to send me a PM I might be able to give him some Canadian perspective.You sir are correct. The gun is in Canada. For those wondering, this is a local sale, the gun is not advertised online. I will ask the seller for the first 3-4 digits of the serial number.As previously mentioned, whether or not the original actuator was knurled would depend on the serial number, although there was no definite cut-off serial number range between knurled and smooth. Nice looking example of probably a mid-range Savage 1928A1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorcar Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 She's a beauty, I would jump all over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1957 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Disregard PM. Advice was for a US sale and BATFE NFA transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speeddemon02 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Based on the pictures with the patent numbers toward the rear, Bridgeport, Conn toward the front, lyman rear sight, non crossbolt stock, and finned barrel we can narrow down the serial range assuming some are original Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxi5566 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 The seller sent me the serial number: 311 XXX He said he could swap the 30 rds magazine with a 20 rounds (original, pinned at 5 rds) from Auto Ordnance, Colt, Crosby or Seymour Industries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 It would be nice if every poster would have his country listed.Save a lot of time giving advise incorrectly believing the gun was in the US, when it was in another country.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyDixon Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 so how are guns deactivated in canada? ive seen stuff in europe that just hopeless, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurencen Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 the old deactivation allowed the firearm to be cock and click with some diss assembly, usually a pin thro the receiver chamber and welded, grind the bolt face at 45 degrees and in some cases the upper tacked to the lower, they also have the mags pinned to 5 rounds or less current deactivation there are no moving parts, bolt is welded in receiver, trigger set is welded over inside so they do not move, barrel plug welded and welded to nose then finally the mag is welded in place, as I say no moving parts this is why old decativations are sought after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk VII Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 It's getting the same here now, and the old ones can't change hands anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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