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#1 tray burge

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Posted 24 September 2020 - 10:16 AM

Personally, I don't believe Biden has a snow balls chance in Hell of winning the election honestly, but that's the question? If somehow the election is stolen and upheld, we already know what he'll do to turn us into a socialist nation.

My question is, and this is geared to guys that have really expensive FA's, will you just "hand them over", will they be exempt as war relics? What's your take?

I only have a semi-auto Tommy, however I have a very large collection of firearms all together and I honestly don't know what I'll do.


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 11:31 AM

Imo Id guess theyd do a buy back. Then go after the stragglers. Theres no way to hide. Now AR15s? I dont think 33-50% will turn them in. They cant track millions. Ive bought and sold so many who knows where they all are

Buybacks cost them nothing. They just print more money. If they offered double what they are worth most would run to turn in their FA.

They could just tax ammo. They dont need to ban guns. $10 tax per bullet. Pretty much ends the hobby. Reloading supplies illegal. Or put the tax on the primer. Eventually all supplies run out.

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Posted 24 September 2020 - 12:13 PM

Buy backs, good luck with that one, if you want to participate in that go for it.

I don't think very many LEOs will want that role to go collect your fees, guns, ammo etc. Some gun owners won't give them up regardless and after some sudden attrition of LEOs...well it will turn into a cluster. If you look to the eastern mountain regions even today there is a history of not liking the Federalies, state and local government agents. That feeling is still very alive and very well today thank you. Untaxed liquor is still made and sold in the hills today.

 

At some point, all gun owners will decide enough is enough and that VA showed us what happens when the demonazis take over. Our fore fathers put up with a lot less crap from the British than we are doing today from local, state and feds. There is a red line coming and gun owners better figure that out and really soon, when that comes what is your plan? You can bet ole Joe (or the commie VP) will do everything to disarm us for their socialist utopia country for Soros Gates and Bloomberg. Follow the money. You do not have long as the dems will contest everything in elections and liberals are already to explode on Trumps SCOTUS pick. Voting for the local, state and national races are important, encourage all to do so this time especially. Even with voting I believe Civil War II is upon us.


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 12:51 PM

I agree 100%, but I believe it's more of a class war versus civil war myself. We have the ultra wealthy that want to control everything and the police have already shown that 95%+ of the rioters are unemployed. No surprise they want what's yours and mine for free, in their miniscule pea brains they're entitled to it and the ubber rich are fueling this belief to push a false narrative.


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 12:57 PM

I don't think very many LEOs will want that role to go collect your fees, guns, ammo etc.


I used to think that too but yet look at all the cops enforcing the constitutionally dubious, fascist mask orders with arrests.
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Posted 24 September 2020 - 12:58 PM

This is going out on a Limb,BUT AntiFa.
We all know they are the Democrat Party's
"Brownshirts", since Local Law Enforcement would be apprehensive about arrests and Firearms Confiscations on their Neighbors,
Federalized Armed and Train AntiFa would fill the Democrat Party's needs for Firearms Confiscations
The Nazi Party replaced Local Police with
Brownshirts Members.
AntiFa was training not just for Riots and Looting, the Democrat Party has bigger Plans for them.

Democrat Governors were first Releasing Prisoners because of COVID19(mask don't work in Prison) to join in with AntiFa/BLM in Rioters.
Now Democrat Governors(NJ&CA) are releasing MORE Prisoners with their Voting Privileges restored. Why?
These newly released Prisoners more than likely will be part of the Post Election Riots that Democrats are promising if Joe Biden loses.
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Posted 24 September 2020 - 01:46 PM

Personally, I don't believe Biden has a snow balls chance in Hell of winning the election honestly, but that's the question? If somehow the election is stolen and upheld, we already know what he'll do to turn us into a socialist nation.

My question is, and this is geared to guys that have really expensive FA's, will you just "hand them over"

 As far as rioting and looting if the senile one is not elected, if the police do not do anything about it, that's when citizens need to take up their arms and protect there own lives and property, that's why we have them in the first place! There is no getting away from it, we are headed for Civil war, it may come in a few months or a few years, but it's waiting out there for us. Things are so far gone there is no turning back now. My one worry is how military forces will be used to differentiate between the good and bad forces, if they don't, then we will be fighting the military as well which will be as bad as it gets.


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 02:39 PM

    Contrary to popular belief, especially with todays lawyers and self appointed constitutional scholars,  The Second Amendment doesn't give us rights, they come from God. 

    It deliberately dictates what the federal government has no power over.  That also includes Arms (being musket and cannon) ammo, powder etc.  Todays "scholars" state, all we have to do is outlaw or tax the ammo.  WRONG. 

    Are we to belief the Founding Fathers didn't think of that as they carefully considered the amendments?  Of course they did, because educated people would, in their minds of the time, would never consider such ridiculousness as the intent of the amendment is a Full Idea as well as Gospel. 

    Unfortunately todays Stupidly Educated fall hook line and sinker for this drivel because the amendment doesn't state it verbatim.  Todays laws as written are not all encompassing, their intent is precise.  The Founders proceeded to ratify the Amendments were to their understanding could never be misconstrued.  

    Today unfortunately to many minds have been twisted. 


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 02:52 PM

Taxed registration with draconian penalties for violation works. That is the message of NFA. The first and foremost road block consists of the political framework that fronts the effort to confiscate private firearms of any type. We know what it looks like and can't be sprung on an unsuspecting population. Many anti-gun people balk at the political practicalities that must be in place for universal confiscation.  Confiscation laws are not going to happen easily as they would be tied up in court forever, short of a military coup. Gradual state registration schemes will continue to be floated and if successful might eventually lead to federal universal registration ala NFA. Once that is achieved and successfully enforced, which is the key, the path to federal confiscation will be slightly more easily traveled by those willing to risk it. We have a long, long established history of almost saturation levels of private firearms possession. The enumerated BOR merely state what are natural rights possessed by every individual and they are not dependent on a piece of paper. Too many people know that now and more will as the progressives continue to insist on misinterpreting the BOR and Constitution. FWIW


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 02:57 PM

I don't own a singe firearm that I purchased from the government so I wish they would cease using the phrase "Buy Back" ... That said, I have nothing for sale.


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 03:16 PM

I understand  that 5 to 7 states (my home state being one) are setting themselves up as a "Constitutional Sanctuary" state and are moving forward with this in the courts. I heard it on talk radio where Rush has his show, it wasn't him saying it, but on another show like his. If it's successful, can you imagine all the other free states jumping on board with this?


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 05:33 PM

I don't own a singe firearm that I purchased from the government so I wish they would cease using the phrase "Buy Back" ... That said, I have nothing for sale.

And how could they put a price on something you can't replace?
By definition that becomes priceless!
I see a lot of future "boating accidents."


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 06:43 PM

This thread should be in the "Off Topic Forum" section.


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 07:56 PM

Government wants less of something they tax it

Cigarettes is a good example. Watch for ammo taxes

A simple way to control firearms. Maybe not a quick fix but long term it would work

Edited by huggytree, 24 September 2020 - 07:58 PM.

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Posted 25 September 2020 - 01:30 AM

Name something the government has "Bought back" or taken from the p[people? I can't think of one thing. the election will go fine. We will be fine.


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Posted 25 September 2020 - 06:39 AM

Name something the government has "Bought back" or taken from the p[people? I can't think of one thing. the election will go fine. We will be fine.


Stop being rational.  This thread is all about paranoia


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Posted 25 September 2020 - 08:32 AM

Name something the government has "Bought back" or taken from the p[people? I can't think of one thing. the election will go fine. We will be fine.

 

Bump Stocks 


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Posted 25 September 2020 - 08:44 AM

All speculation at this point in time.


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Posted 25 September 2020 - 10:14 AM

Name something the government has "Bought back" or taken from the p[people? I can't think of one thing. the election will go fine. We will be fine.


Stop being rational.  This thread is all about paranoia

Absolutely not! Proposing a valid question of a possible scenario outcome is not paranoia. Burying your guns in the back yard would be an example of paranoia.


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Posted 25 September 2020 - 10:16 AM

Name something the government has "Bought back" or taken from the p[people? I can't think of one thing. the election will go fine. We will be fine.

 

I agree, God is already there so I'm not really too concerned myself. I put all my faith in Him.

As for an example: Bumpstocks


Edited by tray burge, 25 September 2020 - 10:17 AM.

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