Roland the Thompsongunner Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 These blank guns are super nice and work well. They are great for diplay and living history events and fill a void in a collection without spending 25k. Awesome for reenacments or even just to give the feel of firing a full auto gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svt40 Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Has anyone tried making their own blanks? Would be nice to be able to make our own. All I can think is $15 a mag when I pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anticus Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Do you think it would really be cheaper ? I do reloading for my old oddball calibers cuz you have to roll your own, but for common modern rounds, eh. Factory works for me. I suspect it would be the same for blanks. Are they harder to make than a ball round ? Where would you get dies ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 And where would you get the powder??Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95mustang Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) There is a lot of you tube videos out there in interweb land....that show / instruct how to make 45 acp blanks.And red dot seems to be the powder choice Looks to be time consuming the first time around , making the brass from a 308 case.Second time reloading mAy be quiicker.I've never tried it so no experience Edited February 24, 2019 by 95mustang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMGguy Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Receiver looks like just original except markings.That's the impression you get when handling and firing one of Bob's blank guns. All steel and walnut, and quality all the way. Personally, I like the PO blanks. You get all of the sound and flash you could want, while knowing you're not eroding the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svt40 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 There is a lot of you tube videos out there in interweb land....that show / instruct how to make 45 acp blanks.And red dot seems to be the powder choice Looks to be time consuming the first time around , making the brass from a 308 case.Second time reloading mAy be quiicker.I've never tried it so no experience Yea I just remember helping a friend make blanks for his STG44. Was quick and simple once you got it all set up. We also made .45acp blanks back then out of 30.06 cases. But then again blanks back then were .10 cents a round and were very affordable. If making my own blanks would get me down to 25 cents a round I'd consider it worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerslayer Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I've made .45 acp blanks... but its been a few years. I found the crimp dies somewhere on line, and have used both starline blank brass, and 308 cases cut down. Starline at that time made me order several thousand cases... no smaller sale. Just looked at starlines page and they don't list them for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svt40 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I've made .45 acp blanks... but its been a few years. I found the crimp dies somewhere on line, and have used both starline blank brass, and 308 cases cut down. Starline at that time made me order several thousand cases... no smaller sale. Just looked at starlines page and they don't list them for sale.I think Starline is where PhilOrd gets the brass for their blanks. I doubt they'd sell the correct brass to anyone other than PhilOrd though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanksguy Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Bob,Any "up-date" to BATF Tech. Branch allowing the change to "standard" .45ACP Blanks for use in your 1928A1 or M1A1 Thompson Blank-Firing non-guns (?). Regards, RichardSUS Army, RETBlanksguy2001@outlook.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted May 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 I sent them a sample gun months ago. Now they say to not even ask until120 days have passed and I think we are getting close to that. I will of coursereport in with the ruling. As an aside pertaining to this topic when we tested the gun with "standard"blanks Swanson blanks are so powerful that they almost cycle the gun with NOadaptor so it will be very important to use the correct adaptor for the blankbeing used. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanksguy Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Hi Bob,Thank you for the "up-date" to this.Please keep me on your list for these.....I am interested in a 1928A1 upper that fires "standard-size" 45ACP Blanks, and possible an M1A1 upper at a later date. As an aside pertaining to the ".45ACP-Blanks, and Blanks in general"...….I am intimately familiar with the .45ACP Blank in most of its forms as I made "Blanks" for reenactors, etc. from about 1988 (prior to the "Star-Line-Brass" when it had to be made from other brass-cases) well through about 2014. Best regards,RichardSUS Army, RETBlanksguy2001@outlook.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anticus Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) I prefer the current blanks. My gun runs like a Swiss watch with them. Edited May 4, 2019 by anticus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Both mine run fine on Bob's blanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanksguy Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 Bob,I figured that I would check in again on BATF Tech. Branch reviewing your submission (IE: The ability to use standard .45ACP SMG Blanks as the other manufacturer(s) uses in their BlankFiringOnlyNon-Guns.).Regards, RichardSUS Army, RETBlanksguy2001@outlook.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauserMatt Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Also still interested in the 45ACP blank version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted July 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 The ATF has had the sample gun which accepts standard blanks since February.I am waiting as fast as I can. When they get back to me I will post here. Obviouslyit should not take this long.... Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgvince Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 Yea. The government works for us, right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanksguy Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 Hi Bob,I went over to the Phila-Ord web-page......but couldn't find the 1928A1 Blank-Firing-Uppers listed anywhere. Special-Order item (?). Current options/prices on these as far as rear-sights, finned or non-finned-Blank-Barrel, etc.. (?). Also, any word from ATF on using standard-size (length and diameter) .45ACP-Blanks as opposed to the PO special size Blank (?)……...or are the Outside-Diameters of the PO Blank the same as the Star-Line .45ACP-Blank-Brass (?). Regards,RichardSUS Army, RETBlanksguy2001@outlook.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted October 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 The ATF Technical Services Branch STILL has the prototype gun which uses a boltwhich will accept standard rim blanks. When I contact them all I get is that it is "under review".The gun that they have is identical to the original approved gun except the bolt face will acceptstandard rim blanks so I do not know what the hold up is. I am keeping a list of those interested in the M1928A1 version and I will be making more of them when I can catch up. The original lot of guns with finned barrels, compensators, andLyman 55B sights sold for $3650, and an upper half for those who have the parts to finishwas $2250. Due to the increasing scarcity and price of original M1928A1 parts there is no way a complete gun will sell for $3650 next time around. Meanwhile I am making the M1A1 model. Anyone wishing to get on mylist for either gun can just email me with their phone and email. No deposit is required. Bob/Phila Ord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFS Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 Hi Bob,Just wondering if there has been any word yet on the 1928A1's being released for production. EFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Bob great effort and at that pace it just prices itself out of the market for Many Just like Colt Thompsons And anything else. that has come around. Anybody want semi MP-44'S at 3500 sure why not Oh wait they be $10,000.00 now Never mind. We have a low select market for all this stuff now and the Select market gets smaller every darn year. Can you imagine you might live long enough to see No market. thousands of cool guns big price and a hundred buyers.It is coming. I can get used AK'S in the mideast this week. for $500.00 each. Now everybody wants used or new Colt and FN M-4's.I have ten customers for the new 2020 Colt Pythons at 1700 each. I said some now want $3,000.00 they said cancel my order i will shop, I wish you much success with the product. I know its a pain waiting on some d.c. Decision. they hold the business you have hostage. have a good 2020. RON K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanksguy Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Hi Bob,I am still interested in a 1928A1 Thompson "upper-assembly" with finned-barrel and compensator that fires "standard-size" .45ACP Blanks, and an M1A1 Thompson "upper-assembly" that fires "standard-size" .45ACP Blanks. Please keep me on your "Lists" for these......and let us know when ATF Tech.-Branch approves the change from your current small-base Blanks to standard .45ACP Blanks. I understand that ATF has had your submitted example for about a year now.....(?). Can you update us as to current costs for these "uppers" (?) Regards,RichardSUS Army, RETBlanksguy2001@outlook.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted January 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Yes, the Technical Services Branch has had the standard blanks prototype - which Is identicalTo the original - except for the face of the bolt - since Feb. 19 of last year with no end in sight. Thisis far longer than it took to get the original gun approved. Obviously there is no excuse for thisextensive delay. When you submit something like this they tell you not to contact them for at least120 days after which you can call and hope to get a person instead of a recording. The last timeI called - which admittedly was months ago I was told it is "under review". This is nothing morethan a form of gun control and why it is being applied to a non-firearm is beyond me. A note on the use of standard blanks: The gun is designed from scratch to fire blanks and hasa smaller bore volume than a live gun. Standard blanks are loaded "hot" because they have to workgun mechanisms designed for regular ammo. For example, when Swanson blanks are used in the Phila Ord gun they are so powerful they almost work the gun with NO adaptor fitted. So when thetime comes care must be taken to use a blank adaptor which is proper for the blanks being used. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted March 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 I have received the ruling from ATF on the gun using standard type blanksand the answer is NO. It took them exactly a year (Feb 19, 2019 to Feb20, 2020) to rule on this. I can submit another "improved" prototype butit is likely that once again it would take a year or longer to get a ruling. I checked with a high-powered Washington DC law firm specializingin dealing with the ATF to see if there was any way to get rulings faster,and they said no. So for now and for the foreseeable future the guns use the PhilaOrdnance blank. Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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