Big Al Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 This was posted on the US Militaria Forum: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/201436-please-help-identify-this-1928a1/ According to the OP, it is live and legal to own where he lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Wow, could that thing possibly even work? I have seen some weird stuff, but that takes the cake. I kinda agree with the first guys comment, take the pics down and run away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3bobby Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I guess he is in South Africa or somewhere like that. I think it's a fantasy gun or film prop from something like star wars as there isn't enough room for the bolt to function. I'm pretty sure that the Thompson gun design is that long because that's as short as the body can be yet still function. If it could have functioned with a shorter body, I'm sure it would have been shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian06 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 From looking at parts kits and everything, I don't see any reason why it would not work even if it was cut down. There is plenty of room in the bolt cavity for it to be shorter and I have always wondered if anyone had actually done it. If such things were legal, cheaper, and not so destructive of historical devices, I would probably try such things myself. Even if the meaty rear half of a bolt were cut in half, it would still likely function in a Thompson as it would still be long enough to keep the bolt from getting cockeyed in the channel. As long as the lower and the receiver were shortened to accommodate the smaller bolt (to keep the recoil spring from binding), it would probably work (you would probably also want a stiffer recoil spring since you have a lighter bolt moving backwards with more force). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk VII Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I remember seeing an MP40 that had been shortened in this way for one of the Dirty Dozen sequels. They had a devil of a job getting it to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I remember seeing an MP40 that had been shortened in this way for one of the Dirty Dozen sequels. They had a devil of a job getting it to work.I've seen that one. It was The Dirty Dozen: The Next Mission. I was wondering if my eyes were playing tricks on me at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 It could have been a movie prop. There would be plenty of room for the short blowback used for blanks. Other than that, YGIAGAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 That's the most unique TSMG modification I've seen...It's kind of cool, especially if it's still functional. David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raining Brass Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Okay, that is just bizarre looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkel Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I saw one like it somewhere on the net. The builder was just making a wall hanger. It was made from a demilled kit. The upper was the front and rear sections welded together. The center section was not used. The bolt did not move. The lower had the tail cut off to fit. The barrel was also chopped. Vertical wood grip and nice bluing to finish. He called it a Thompson pistol. It was really well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Another chop shop chopper. http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b56/Polythemus/C5270065_zpsf65d0f20.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 This one looks to be set up for a suppressor. Hard to tell if the first one is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Those of you who attended the 2006 Tracie Hill shoot may remember an Ohio member who was shooting an extensively modified 28 West Hurley that looked somewhat like the one in Arthurs photo. It was best described as an attempt to make an Uzi out of a Thompson. Perhaps someone with a better memory than I can describe it in more detail. I seem to remember it having quick change barrel, red dot, folding etc. The gun was constantly malfunctioning and I don't think he ever finished the match. I don't remember anyone taking a photo of it and I heard that he has since passed away. Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk VII Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 It was made up by Bapty's in England, and it's still in their stock. I saw it some years ago. I've seen that one. It was The Dirty Dozen: The Next Mission. I was wondering if my eyes were playing tricks on me at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUTTERRATT Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 The bolt would have to be chopped right behind the Actuator Knob, I don't think it could be made to work especially in open bolt configuration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 The owner has posted good photos of the outside and inside. From the looks of things, it appears to be able to function. How well remains to be known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjong-ni Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the photos. Although it may have functioned, does it look like the receiver cut-out leaves the rear a little thin, and not at all radiused in the corners, already a weak point. If it were to fracture suddenly you could get the old "buffer guide in the eye"....Phil Edited February 15, 2014 by anjong-ni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUTTERRATT Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) In one of the pics I see a .22 Cal casing. Is it set up in .45 ? I see the .45 magazine and blish but with a masterpiece like this who knows... Edited February 15, 2014 by GUTTERRATT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StooperZero Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 After seeing this I remember watching crap on TV , I think the history channel and they showed a pic of some random thug from the late 20's who had his thompson chopped down to match up with the vertical grip .with a sling loop on the grip and one welded on the rear of the receiver VS having a stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 This one looks to be set up for a suppressor. Hard to tell if the first one is. True that. http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b56/Polythemus/TSMGcustomwithsupressor_zps3021fd9e.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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