Devil Dog 1110 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 There is a really nice looking Savage 1928A1 listed on Gun Broker.Makes my Thompson-nitus flare up.Sorry I don't know how to post the listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadycon Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 You right click on the address bar, click copy, go to where you want to post it , right click, click paste. Called copy/paste. GK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt Chopper Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=427208230 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Very nice looking gun. Based on the photos, the wood looks nearly new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3bobby Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Im no expert but it looks refinished to me, there are scores under the finish that I think shouldn't be there on an original finish. I was also looking at S473018 so almost 3000 units before the gunbroker gun and it has the simple 'L' back sight not the Lyman adjustable as the gunbroker gun has. Was there a set change over or was it random? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphinvet Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 They will get a good price on this one, it's pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Great looking gun, and I suppose it's not a totally ridiculous "buy it now" price, but I agree with m3bobby it looks refinished, I would not have expected that adjustable sight either and when did they go to the smooth barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dog 1110 Posted July 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 What about the witness marks on the side oh the barrel/receive- I didn't know they put these on military Thompson's .Also- do the marks on the top of the barrel look correct?I sure wood like to hear from Roscoe on this gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThompsonCrazy Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Certainly a nice piece!I have to say I think it has been refinished. The barrel and receiver have an identical surface appearance which is strange to me as I would expect the barrel to be more "polished" than the receiver. The Cutts compensator looks to have been lightly blasted and just doesn't have the smoothness of even the Russian parts kits. The top side nose of the receiver on each side looks to have had light pitting too. I feel like I'm being over critical but also agree with the above comments that this one most likely came with a smooth barrel and L sight.I wouldn't kick her out of my safe but don't think this is an original finish survivor. Possibly a really nice piece that someone did a little prep to in spots, bead/soda blasting, maybe a little acid here or there and then into the DuLite tank. I like the numbers matching, transferable, etc but don't think it is a 28k Thompson. TC Edited July 9, 2014 by ThompsonCrazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I agree, this is a nice gun, but it has been refinished. The finish is too perfect and uniform and there aresome small blemishes - a couple of nicks and scuffs on the receiver, and what looks like light pitting on thetop front corners of the receiver that have all been blued over. Also the swirl-like striations on the side of thereceiver from Blanchard grinding have been dulled. To me this gun was glass beaded then blued.If it was a true original finish there would be variances in the finish from the receiver to the barrel to thecompensator, etc. All these parts have the "satin" look which is not correct. You'd also expect wearmarks on the top of the receiver from the actuator. The P on the barrel is not at true top dead center sothis barrel was either removed and put back on, or its from another gun or parts set. The wood does not matchand there is no way it is original but of course since wood is easily changed with a screw driver this is tobe expected. This is an example of a gun that you should remove the grip from the trigger frame and look forblued-over pitting. Also It is always a concern when the seller tries too hard and you get the long deluxestory - owner a high ranking officer? Oh sure. Nice gun but not worth $28K in my humble opinion. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I agree with Bob and what others have said, it just looks too good. I also found the seller's story in the second half of the description a bit over the top. If the gun was all original as claimed it would sell itself without having to dream up such a story. This guy is trying far too hard to make a sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I agree with everyone also. A Savage gun in that serial number range would have a smooth barrel and simple "L" Lyman sight. The gun has been rebuilt to look new. Someone did a nice job but I am of the opinion it is not original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dog 1110 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Thanks guys- you just saved me a lot of money.This gun may still be a good buy for someone if they can get it at the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 That write up is just pure nonsense but it will appeal to the "zero knowledge + fat wallet" buyers. The problem with the write-up is that it's too long. Most people don't have enough reading comprehension to process all that writing. I've found that the best thing is to have a lot of really nice pictures. Amazing how much money people will spend without having a clue what they are buying. Somebody will pay tip top dollar for that 28A1 and think he has a precious pristine collector item. Are the "P" marks on the barrel always exactly 90 degrees from the index mark? I've seen a lot of barrels at this point, the markings or lack thereof seem pretty random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Devil Dog 1110, on 10 Jul 2014 - 08:19, said:Thanks guys- you just saved me a lot of money.This gun may still be a good buy for someone if they can get it at the right price./ Absolutely It's at 19K right now. Setting aside all the goofy BS in the write-up, that seems like a pretty good buy at that price. A really minty and pretty looking west hurley will sell for $17K or so on gunbroker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) For $28,000 a person might luck out and buy one of the St. Louis police Colts.But for $20,000 this Savage would be a great buy.I've never heard anyone disparage a West Hurley, reworked by "PK", because it wasn't original and has non Numrich Arms parts.This gun was reworked by someone who did very nice work.Jim CPs considering the drums and pouches it would be a great buy at $21,000. Edited July 10, 2014 by jim c 351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I think that the P on the top of the barrel is always at top-dead-center, but the drawline - if thereis one, is often a little off.... Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dog 1110 Posted July 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 This gun sold for the Buy Now price of $28,000.Somebody wanted it bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) There are a lot of guys out there who don't care if a gun is $2000 too much or $4000 too much. They just want the gun and they ran out of patience. Or they're rich and don't care about $4000. And then of course there are the guys who don't understand the market. Gunbroker is the way to find those guys. The only reason I mention it is because it happens A LOT. Also, a lot of gun collectors don't realize that good deals are actually kind of rare. A lot of collectors who have lots of guns already will sort of just wait until a really good deal comes along. That's a different perspective from the new guy who has been hunting for a particular gun for a year. Edited July 19, 2014 by buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dog 1110 Posted July 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Buzz what is that picture you use in your profile?It freaks me out every time I see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityinfo Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Newbie here. Taking my time, reading and learning.... and I was also shocked to see this gun go at that price. I was in for a while at "realistic" numbers... but now I'm thinking that realistic has no meaning any more :-) Wish I'd have been in the market even as recently as a couple of years ago! Anyway, this is an incredibly informative forum, and I thank you all for the education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Welcome to the forum. It only gets better. More interesting. More informative. And, unfortunately, more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 This gun sold for the Buy Now price of $28,000. Somebody wanted it bad.I did not watch the auction, so don't know if the amount was steadily increasing from several bidders towards the buy now price. If it suddenly took a large jump at the last minute, could be the seller decided to pay the Gunbroker fee rather than let it sell at a lower price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) This gun sold for the Buy Now price of $28,000. Somebody wanted it bad.I did not watch the auction, so don't know if the amount was steadily increasing from several bidders towards the buy now price. If it suddenly took a large jump at the last minute, could be the seller decided to pay the Gunbroker fee rather than let it sell at a lower price.Mn shooter, Here's how it went down. There were 26 bids starting at $19,000. amlevil3 A+18 made the 23rd bid at $24,000. Then Jackcounty A+2078 bid $24,500. At that point amlevil 3 A+18 hit the BUY NOW buttom. So it would seem on the up and up. Jim C PS Gotta love a high roller. Edited July 20, 2014 by jim c 351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) Buzz what is that picture you use in your profile? It freaks me out every time I see it!/ It's just a little girl with a sly look on her face in front of a burning house, like she set the fire. I just thought it was a funny picture it was sort of making the rounds on the internet a few years ago Edited July 20, 2014 by buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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